Read Every Word: The Lindsay Clancy Trial Day 1 Transcript, Both Opening Statements and Patrick Clancy on the Stand

This is the transcript of the first day of testimony in Lindsay Clancy’s murder trial in Plymouth Superior Court, Monday, July 27, 2026. It covers Judge William Sullivan’s preliminary instructions to the jury, the full opening statement for the Commonwealth by Assistant District Attorney Shanan Buckingham, Kevin Reddington’s full opening statement for the defense, and the first part of the direct examination of Patrick Clancy by Assistant District Attorney Jennifer Sprague, through the end of the day.

The trial ended in a mistrial on September 4 when the jury deadlocked. The next hearing is November 2. For the September 29 hearing, see our full transcript; for what is pending now, see the defense request for an evidentiary hearing.

How this transcript was made

• Source. The audio of a YouTube livestream of Day 1 (“LIVE: Lindsay Clancy trial Day 1, opening statements”), 3 hours 37 minutes. The livestream does not show every moment in the courtroom; sidebar conferences are not audible.
• Method. Machine transcription with speaker separation, then reviewed by us. This is not an official court transcript. The official record is the court reporter’s transcript, which may differ.
• Speaker names are ours. The recording does not identify speakers. We assigned names from context and checked them against courtroom reporting, including the Boston Globe’s video identifying Shanan Buckingham as the prosecutor who gave the Commonwealth’s opening. During Patrick Clancy’s testimony, short answers such as “Yes” or “No” were attributed by the order of question and answer, and a few may be misattributed. Where we could not tell, we used a generic label.
• Edits. Brief crosstalk is omitted. Words in [brackets] are our corrections of obvious transcription errors, such as names. Timestamps are hours:minutes:seconds into the recording. Opening statements are each shown as one block.

Key moments

• [0:07:33] The jury is sworn and the clerk reads the indictments.
• [0:09:59] Judge Sullivan’s preliminary instructions: the presumption of innocence, the burden of proof, and the warning to avoid news and social media coverage.
• [0:29:01] Buckingham opens for the Commonwealth: “Cora. She had just turned five.” She tells the jury the children were “deliberately and meticulously killed by this defendant on January 24th of 2023, one by one,” describes the takeout order the Commonwealth says drew Patrick Clancy out of the house, and says “this was not a woman in the throes of psychosis.”
• [0:49:07] Reddington opens for the defense: “She loved those children right up to the time of their death.” He tells the jury she “took the Zoloft and was spun out of control,” walks through her medications and doctors, and says “this is a woman that was suffering from psychosis at the time that she went down to that basement.”
• [1:25:35] The Commonwealth calls Patrick Clancy.
• [1:57:36] Patrick Clancy describes his wife asking him to sleep in the basement so she could sleep with Callan.
• [2:04:26] He describes the bag of prescription medications police took the night the children died.
• [2:22:11] He describes her telling him about thoughts of “hurting the kids.”
• [2:32:10] “I said, I think it’s time to go to McLean.”
• [2:43:22] The defense objects and the lawyers go to sidebar.
• [3:31:30] Court recesses for the day, with Patrick Clancy still on direct; the jury is told to return Wednesday morning.

The transcript

THE COURT [0:00:21]: Yes, please,

THE CLERK [0:00:25]: Miss. She is represented by attorney Kevin [Reddington]. The Commonwealth is represented by Assistant district attorney Jennifer Sprague and Assistant district attorney Shannon.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [0:00:37]: All right.

THE COURT [0:00:37]: [Counsel], good morning. Good morning, miss Clancy. Good morning. I apologize, everybody. We had some technological problems here, but I think we're ready to go forward. Before we continue, could I see councillor Tsibar just briefly. Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye, all

COURT OFFICER [0:05:22]: persons having anything to do before the honorable William Sullivan, justice of the Superior court, now sitting in Plymouth within and for the Commonwealth draw answer your attendance and you shall be heard. God save the commonwealth of Massachusetts. This court is now in session. Please be seated.

THE CLERK [0:05:40]: Good morning, your honor. May I proceed?

THE COURT [0:05:41]: Yes, please.

THE CLERK [0:05:42]: Your honor, before the court today we have the jury trial in the matter of Commonwealth versus Lindsay Clancy. Ms. Clancy is present. She is represented by attorney Kevin [Reddington]. And the Commonwealth is represented by Assistant district attorney Jennifer [Sprague] and Assistant district attorney Shannon Buckingham.

THE COURT [0:06:46]: All right, thank you, everyone. I'm sorry. That's the technology that we have here. I apologize. Before we get going, I want to ask you just a couple of questions to make sure that everyone was able to follow my instructions from last week. And so the first question would be, has any member of the jury read, seen or heard or over anything about any aspect of this case that would affect your ability to be fair and impartial as a juror? All right. All answers, no in the negative. Number three, the last question. I just want to ask you. Is there any other serious matter of concern bearing on your service as a juror in this case that anybody needs to bring to my attention? Very good. Thank you again for following those instructions. And Madam clerk, ladies and gentlemen of

THE CLERK [0:07:33]: the jury, please stand and raise your right hand. Do each of you solemnly swear that you shall well and truly try the issues between the Commonwealth and the defendant according to your evidence, so help you God?

THE JURORS [0:07:48]: I do. Thank you. You may be seated. Members of the [jury, hearken] to these indictments. On docket number 2383 CR00198, offense 001 on the charge of murder, the jurors for the commonwealth of Massachusetts, on their oath, present that Lindsay M. Clancy of Duxbury in the county of Plymouth, on or above January 24, 2023, at Duxbury in the county of Plymouth, did assault and beat Cora Clancy, intend to murder her, and by such assault and beating did kill and murder, said Cora Clancy. On drop in number 2383cr00198, offense 002 on the charge of murder. The jurors for the commonwealth of Massachusetts, on their oath, present that Lindsay M. Clancy of Duxbury and the county of Plymouth, on or about January 24, 2023, at Duxbury in the county of Plymouth, did assault and beat Dawson Clancy with intent to murder him, and by such assault and beating did kill and murder the said Dawson Clancy. On docket number 2383, CR0019, charge of murder. The jurors for the commonwealth of Massachusetts, on their oath, present that Lindsay M. Clancy of Dexbury, Plymouth, on or about January 24, 2023, at Duxbury in the county of Plymouth, did assault and beat Callum Clancy, intent to murder him, and by such assault and beating did kill and murder the said Callum Clancy. To these indictments, the defendant, the Bob, pleads not guilty and for trial places herself upon the country, which country you are. You were sworn to try the issues. If she is guilty, you shall say so. If she is not guilty, you shall say so. And no more members of the jury, hearken to your evidence.

THE COURT [0:09:59]: All right, thank you, madam clerk. Now, members of the jury, and really, this is the first time I can technically call you members of the jury because you don't become the jury in this case. So you take that great oath that was just given, and that's an oath that has been given to jurors for hundreds of years here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, where you've sworn to well and truly try this case. We have confidence that you're going to be able to do that. And so what I'm going to do at this point is I'm going to give what we call a pre charge. And all that really is, is kind of an orientation to you, to the procedures that we're going to have as the case goes forward and kind of go over some of the terminology that you might hear to give you a little bit of an idea what some of the principles of the law are that you'll have to apply to the facts as you find them. So as we go through this, I just kind of, again, I'm going to explain it. And then after that, we're then going to go right into the opening statements of counsel. All right, so first, as you know, this is a criminal case, and the defendant was charged by the way of an indictment on three counts. Now, you have to understand that an indictment is not itself any evidence of the defendant's guilt whatsoever. It's merely the formal way of accusing a person of a crime in order to bring her here to this courtroom. For trial, you are not to draw any inference of guilt from the indictments or from the fact that she was indicted and formally charged. Now, in every criminal case, the defendant is presumed to be innocent unless and until she's proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The law requires the Commonwealth, I.e. the prosecution, to prove that the defendant is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. The law does not require the defendant to prove her innocence or to produce any evidence. At the end of this trial, you must find the defendant not guilty of unless the commonwealth has proved to you beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant has committed each or any of the offenses with which he's charged. Now, I'll more formally instruct you on what reasonable doubt is later. But a charge is proved beyond a reasonable doubt if after you've compared and considered all the evidence you have in your minds an abiding conviction to a moral certainty that the charge is true if going to be your duty, the duty of the jury to determine whether the commonwealth has proved its case against the defendant beyond a reasonable doubt. And that decision has to be based only on the evidence and the law that's presented here in the courtroom during the trial of this case. Now, the defendant has been charged in three counts of murder. There are two different degrees of murder. There's murder in the first degree and murder in the second degree. If you find the defendant guilty of murder, you shall decide the degree of murder. The commonwealth alleges that the defendant committed murder in the first degree on the following theories, murder with deliberate premeditation and or murder with extreme atrocity or cruelty. Now, to prove the defendant guilty of any crime, the commonwealth must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was criminally responsible at the time the alleged crime was committed. The commonwealth bears the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant committed the crime with which she's charged and also that the defendant is criminally responsible for her conduct. The defendant has no burden to prove a lack of criminal responsibility. Criminal responsibility is a legal term. A person is not criminally responsible for her conduct if she has a mental disease or defect and as a result of that mental disease or defect lacks a substantial capacity either to appreciate the criminality or the wrongfulness of her conduct or to conform her conduct to the requirements of the law. Now, just so you'll know at the end of this trial, I will go over all of those legal principles in much greater detail. All right? So I just kind of wanted to give you a little bit of. Kind of an outline of what the law is on these charges. Now I want to go over how the trial is going to proceed. So as soon as I'm done giving you this kind of pre charge, the attorneys for the commonwealth and the defendant will have an opportunity to present their opening statements. The commonwealth goes first, the assistant district attorney will make her opening for the commonwealth and after that the defense will may choose to make an opening statement at that time. They could defer to give it later in the trial or they could just not give an opening at all. Because remember, the burden of proof is not on the defendant. All right, after the opening statements. One thing I did want to tell you, the opening statements are very important, but they are not evidence. All right? They really, we used to call it when I was a lawyer kind of just roadmaps so you can kind of see where the case is going so you can kind of see what each party's position is. All right? But they're not evidence and it's important for you to keep that in mind. After the opening statements, the commonwealth will then have their opportunity to introduce evidence in support of the charges. After that, the defendant may present evidence in her behalf if she wishes to, but she's not obligated to do so. Remember, the government, the commonwealth has the burden of proof and the defendant doesn't have to produce any evidence whatsoever. Now there also in this case may be some rebuttal evidence. So you may, and we'll go over that kind of how that works in regards to the case when we get to that point. All right, now what is the evidence? Well, the evidence is generally from testimony. This is where the witnesses will testify from. Generally here there may be some documents, there may be some videos, there may be some audios. And in addition to the evidence, we're going to take what we call a view and a view and I'll go over that again also a little bit later. But a view is we're just going to go to a number of spots and sites that may be relevant in this case. We're going to do that probably sometimes either later this week or sometime next week and I'll keep you advised as to that. So you can kind of check the weather and kind of how we're going to go. So that would be generally the evidence. After the evidence is done, we'll go into what they call the closing arguments of the attorneys. Again, very important, but not evidence. All right. And then after the closing arguments, I get to come talk to you again. And at that point I give what they call the judge's charge or just the Instructions and really what it means. I'm just going to explain to you what the law is. And you're going to have to take the facts that you find during the course of this trial and apply the law that I give to you to arrive at the verdict. And I'll explain what the law is, believe me. Much more detail at the end of this trial. Okay, now, now, I just kind of wanted to go over everybody's kind of function in this trial as we go forward. My function is pretty simple, all right? My function is to see that the case is tried in a way that's orderly, fair and efficient. It's also my function to decide on questions of law that might come up during the trial and as I said, to instruct you what the law is that you have to apply. And it's your duty as jurors to accept the law. As I stated to you, what's your function? Well, your function is to determine the facts. In this case, you are the sole and exclusive judges of the facts. You alone will determine what evidence to believe, how important any evidence is that you do believe, and what conclusions all the believable evidence leads you to. You are going to have to consider and weigh the testimony of each and all the witnesses who will appear before you. And you alone will determine whether to believe any witness and what extent to which you do believe that witness. It's going to be your responsibility to resolve any conflicts and testimony that might arise during the course of the trial. And it's your duty to determine where the truth lies. That's your function. Now you should want to comment. I'm going to sometimes be making rulings on objections and evidence issues. I'll be talking to the attorneys and talking sometimes to witnesses. Don't try to read into what I'm doing. In other words, I have no opinion as to what your verdict should be. All right, so if you think you are. You're trying to read between the lines, Don't. All right, I have no opinion. Now, also during the course of the trial, you may hear either the three lawyers objecting. All right? Don't hold that against the attorneys. That's their job. And generally the objections go towards the admissibility of some of the evidence or the questioning. It might be a different form that's needed, and that's what they're supposed to do. So don't hold it against either side if they're making objections. And what'll happen is sometimes I'll just rule right from here where I'm sitting. It may be an objection. If I say, well, that's sustained, that means I agree with the objection. A lot of times the question is just asked a different way. If I say overruled just means I disagree with the objection, and the question can go forward and the answer can be given. All right, so that's just kind of the shorthand we use. There's going to be times during the course of a trial that I have to talk to counsel over at sidebar. When I say sidebar at this point, that's going to be over here. All right? This is in this courtroom. This is the sidebar. And so a lot of times I'll have to talk to counsel over here because the law requires me sometimes to make decisions outside of your hearing. All right, so we do that over here. It can be annoying, I know that, but we do it over here because it's actually quicker than if we ask you to leave the courtroom because you've now seen you'd have to stand up, file out one by one all the way down to the jury room. The court officer then says, they're all in the jury room. Then I talked to the lawyers. Then we resolved that you have to then file all the way back. So we found it's quicker. And so a lot of times those things really move a case along. So I apologize if we're doing them, but that's the reason we do it, and that's the reason why we do it in the courtroom. If we're doing a sidebar conference, if anybody needs to stand up, kind of stretch bad back, you're like, those are pretty comfortable chairs. But maybe sitting there for a while, by all means, do that. But when we're over here at sidebar, don't discuss with any other jurors kind of what's going on or what you think's going on over here. So you just want to stretch. You can. Now, if during the course of this trial, anybody needs to communicate with me about anything, just let the court officer know, and they'll let me know, and I'll talk to the attorneys, and we'll deal with any of your concerns or any issues. Now, until this case is submitted to you after my final instructions, you must not discuss it with anyone, even your fellow jurors or your family, friends, employees. All right? So it's important that you keep an open mind and not decide this case in any way until the entire case has been submitted to you. That sounds easy at this point because you haven't heard anything, but as the case gets going, it gets harder and harder. Sometimes even in the jury room, you can't start deliberating until you hear all the evidence. You can't start talking about it until you hear all the evidence. Until you know the law, you got to apply. All right? We're going to allow you, as the case goes forward, to take notes. And so anybody who wants to take notes, you can. You don't have to. Some people find it helpful to remember, some people find it distracting. So that's just. It's up to you. That's your option. All right? You should know that those notes are your notes. By that, I mean, we can't let you take them home. But at the end of each day, they're collected, they're put in a secure place. Nobody reads them. I don't read them. The attorneys don't read them. Nobody reads them. At the end of the trial, they're destroyed. Okay, so. But just some people, if you want to do it, we'll hand those out in a couple of minutes. Now, I want to just kind of go over just some cautions as we're getting ready to start this trial. First is, as I said already, please keep an open mind. Don't form any judgments or conclusions or views as to any aspect of this case. You haven't heard all the evidence. And you must keep an open mind throughout this case and until the case is given to you in your deliberations. Two, as I said, don't talk about this case, about any aspect of the case, with family, friends, acquaintances, or anybody like that. Three, don't talk to any of the witnesses or parties or attorneys involved in this case. They've been instructed not to talk to you. We really want you to be comfortable, all right? And so if you do pass by one of the people involved in the case, if they go by you and don't say anything to you, don't hold it against them. Don't think they're not being respectful. They're following my instructions. We just want you to be comfortable throughout the course of this trial. another caution is during the time that you serve on this jury, there may be reports about this case in newspapers or social media or on the television. You may be tempted to look or listen. Don't do it. All right? My instruction to you is do not read anything about this case. Don't listen to anything about this case. If something comes on, turn it off. Or if somebody starts talking about it, just say you can't talk about it and you can Blame me. That's my instruction. All right? Now, Sometimes during the course of a trial, evidence is presented that produces an emotional reaction. And that might happen in this case, but as jurors who have taken the oath to follow the law, I'm instructing you that the law says you must separate any emotional reaction on your part from the informational value and weight of the evidence. You must find the facts in this case based only on the evidence. All right, I may go into that a little bit later, but I just kind of wanted to remind you of that in regards to that, don't do any research on this case, all right? If you have any questions about things as you go forward, don't. You're not to do any independent research. You've got, as I said before, we've got three very, very experienced lawyers. They'll get you the information that you're going to need to come to the right verdict, all right? You can't do any research. The other thing is, don't visit the scene of any place that's described during the course of the testimony. So no field trips, all right? As I said, we very well may be taking a view or to go see some of these places later on the trial, but that's the only time you should be there, because at that point you'll be under the supervision of the court officers, the court, the attorneys will be there. So that's the only time you're going to be allowed to do that. Now, I think the reason for all of these cautions probably pretty clear, but it's just we need to ensure that a fair and just trial is given to all the parties in this case. So if you follow those instructions, you'll be able to do that. In regards to the schedule, as I told you, what we're generally going to do is, is go start at nine. We're going to go to 11. Might be a little bit. Might be off kilter a little bit today because of this part of the procedures. Go to 11, then we'll go till 1. There'll be a break from 1 to 2, and we'll generally go 2 to 3, 30 or 4. All right? Now, after saying that, as I told you, I think everybody, this is a case that we may not be sitting every day, all right? And we may have to break early on certain days. So what I'm going to try and do as best I can is give you as much notice and explain to you kind of where we are as we go through the case. And then, so that being said, we're not sitting tomorrow. All right? Something's come up that has nothing to do with any of the participants, but we can't sit. So the thought would be we'll hopefully go most of the day today, then Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. All right? As the week goes on, then I'll address you about how it looks for the next week. All right? We'll try as best we can to keep you up to date in regards to the schedule and also the progress that we're making on this case. All right? that's pretty much what I wanted to address you in this pre charge. These instructions are very preliminary. They're intended, as I said, just to acquaint you with the procedure and the framework of how this case is going to go forward. I'm going to talk to you later on in the trial in a much more detailed explanation of what the law is and what your obligations are. But I know. I know that you're going to try this case according to the oath that we talked about that you took as jurors, where you promised you would well and truly try the issues between the defendant and the commonwealth according to the evidence in the law. If you follow that oath and try this case without fear or prejudice or bias or sympathy, you'll arrive at a true and just verdict. I'm confident of that. And also have confidence in yourself. All right? You can do this. The lawyers and I asked a number of questions, and we all decided and chose that you would be the people who could make this decision. So everyone has confidence in you. You should have confidence in yourself in regards to sitting on this jury and delivering the just verdict on this. So at this point, I'm going to now see if the commonwealth is prepared to give their opening statements. Ms. Bucky.

MS. BUCKINGHAM (for the Commonwealth) [0:29:01]: Thank you, your honor. Morning, ladies and gentlemen. Cora. She had just turned five. She was sweet, silly, smart. She loved sparkly dresses and wearing bows in her hair. She loved princesses and baby dolls. She even tried to convince her preschool teachers at the beginning that her name was Sophia because she loved the Disney character Sophia I so very much. Dawson. He was three. A boy's boy. He was. Bit rambunctious, but funny, full of energy. He loved trucks, construction trucks, fire trucks. And he spoke with a raspy little voice. Callan. Callan was just eight months old. Always smiling, with chunky cheeks. A sweet little baby. We are here, ladies and gentlemen, because they are not. They were strangled deliberately and meticulously killed by this defendant on January 24th of 2023, one by one. She wrapped exercise bands around each one of the kids necks and pulled until their little bodies were limp and life. First Dawson, then Cora, and finally Callan. Your job, ladies and gentlemen, is not easy. In this case, the evidence will be difficult to see, to hear, to process testimony of witnesses. Family, friends, teachers, people who knew the Clancy family, people who saw them regularly, people who saw them on the day in which this defendant killed them. They're all going to come before you, and it may be heartbreaking to hear what they have to say. You'll see photographs of the crime scene. You'll hear testimony from first responders. They're going to tell you about what they discovered when they came into the clancy home at 47 Summer street in Duxbury on January 24th. You'll hear evidence about the defendant during that time period. Observations of her physical appearance, her demeanor. You'll hear testimony about what she was reporting to her friends and family and doctors during this time period. The list of witnesses is quite long. Law enforcement, firefighters, friends, family, teachers, crime scene investigators, forensic scientists, toxicologists, medical examiners, experts. We expect over the next few weeks that you will be able to, or will be able to present to you a clear picture of what was occurring in the clancy household on January 24th of 2023. We ask that you keep an open mind when you're hearing this evidence and during the course of the trial. Don't forget that you use your common sense and your life experience. Those are things that you bring as jurors to the courtroom every day. And it's what's going to take you into the deliberation room at the end of this trial. So what happened on January 24, 2023? It had recently snowed. It was, in fact a Tuesday. Tuesdays were days that Cora and Dawson usually went to preschool. They. They attended the Learning Sprouts Preschool in Duxbury, but they didn't attend on Tuesdays. So on this day, they were home. On this particular day, Cora, who had just turned five, had an appointment at the doctor's, an annual checkup. And so the defendant brought her first thing in the morning to the doctors. The defendant's husband, Patrick Clancy, was home, and he was caring for Callan and Dawson while defendant took Cora to the doctor. Pretty normal. You'll hear and see that Patrick and the defendant exchanged text messages that morning. Patrick sends a photo of Dawson, who had just dressed himself that day, and he was jumping for joy, and he sends that text to the defendant while she's at the doctor. And while at the doctor the defendant sends a text to Cora and her little Johnny and mask to Patrick. When the defendant and Cora returned home that morning, Patrick went downstairs to his basement office to do work. Same as he had normally done on any other day since returning from paternity leave. And then the defendant was charged with caring for the kids for the rest of the day. She put Callan down for a nap, bundled up Cora and Dawson, took them outside to the backyard and played in the snow. They built a snowman. The defendant sent pictures of the snowman and the kids in the snow to Patrick when he's working in the basement. And her mom, who was living in Connecticut, who had just been there that weekend but had gone home. The day proceeds as normal. You'll hear Patrick describe it as a good day, actually. In the late afternoon around 4pm, the defendant searched on her phone for kids marillacs. She searched takeout 3B and she opened the Apple maps on her phone and searched the route that it would take to get from their house to the 3B restaurant in Plymouth. She searched how much time and how far it was. Now, this restaurant had been a place that the family had eaten before, but wasn't their normal takeout spot. She also called CVS and asked them about the kids, Pedialax or Miralax. And that's because at the doctor earlier that day, the doctor had recommended a laxative for Cora because she had some stomach issues. She had complained of an upset tummy at school the day before. You'll hear she had some issues where she didn't like to go to the bathroom at school. A little bit embarrassed. So they suggested the pdlx. So she calls CVS and she confirms that they actually have it at their local CVS in Kingston. Then she sends a text to Patrick and asks if he wants to get takeout if 3V is okay. She didn't feel like cooking dinner. It was a long day. He says sure. He calls in the order. When Patrick leaves the house around 5:15 that evening, everything is normal. Seems normal. He sees Dawson eating chicken nuggets and green beans on the couch before he walks out the door. Patrick leaves to go to 3V and he's going to stop at CVS on the way there. That's when the clock starts, ladies and gentlemen. The defendant knows that Patrick has to stop at CVS, go to 3B. She knows that it's about five miles from their house to get to the restaurant. She knows approximately how much time she has for him to go there and come back. She then takes the children down into the basement. She separates Dawson from Cora and Callan, and then she proceeds to wrap exercise bands around each child's neck and pull until they are dead. She leaves the bands wrapped around each child's neck and goes back upstairs. In the kitchen, she gets a knife and then she proceeds to the second floor of the home. In the middle of this, she misses a call from Patrick. He's at cvs. He misses the call. She calls him right back and they talk for 14 seconds. Nothing that she does or says in that phone call is of concern to Patrick. He proceeds on his task and she proceeds with hers. She goes to the second floor master bedroom, locks the door, crushes up some pills and attempts to take her own life. She uses the knife she got in the kitchen to slash her wrists and her neck. She moves the bed away from the wall, away from the window. She opens that window and goes out. She lands on the cold, hard ground. Shortly thereafter, around 6pm, Patrick comes home. He's got the takeout bag and the CVS bag with the medicine. He enters into the house through the mudroom door into the kitchen area, places the bags down. Eerily quiet. He calls to the kids. No answer. He calls to the defendant. No answer. He takes out his phone and dials the number for Lindsay's phone. Defendant's phone. No answer. He then goes upstairs and finds the master bedroom door locked. He opens it and enters the room, sees blood and the window open. He then goes to the backyard, and that's where he finds the defendant. He's on the ground outside that window, moaning and mumbling. At 6:11pm he calls 911 for help. First responders arrive to the home almost immediately. He's still on the phone with 911 when the responders arrive. And they go right to the backyard. And 10 immediately to the defendant. While they're with the defendant, Patrick tells the first responders, I need to find my kids. He had asked the defendant where the kids were, and she told them they were in the basement. So when he went in the house, that's the first place he went. Down into the basement. He's still on the phone with 911 when he finds each child with an exercise band still wrapped around their neck. He screams for help, and he says, she killed the kids. Efforts made to resuscitate Cora and Dawson were futile. But first responders from Duxbury and the surrounding communities were persistent, and they kept trying to resuscitate them all the way to the hospital. But when they arrived at the Hospital. There was nothing more that medical staff could do for Cora and Dawson. The staff at Beth Israel were able to get a heartbeat on Talyn, but he never started breathing on his own. He never regained consciousness. He had no brain activity. Nonetheless, he was transferred to Boston Children's Hospital, where he died three days later. On January 27th. The defendant was taken to South Shore Hospital and then transported subsequently to Brigham and Women's in Boston. She had multiple traumas, including spinal injuries, as well as superficial injuries to both her wrists and her neck. She is paralyzed. We expect during the course of this trial that you'll hear the defendant made claims that either right after Patrick left the house or after he called her from the cvs, depending on which version of the event she's telling. She heard a voice, a male voice, a voice that she had never heard before, a voice that she never heard again. And that voice told her that it was her last chance, that she had to kill the kids so that she kill herself. She immediately took action when she heard the voice with no direction or details from the so called voice, and she killed the children. Once she killed the children, the voice stopped. When you consider this information in the course of the trial, ladies and gentlemen, I ask that you consider the source, the timing, the substance of her statements about this voice. You're also going to hear from, or you may hear from forensic psychologists and psychiatrists who talk about what's called command hallucinations and voices that people hear before they do something. And when you hear that testimony, I ask that you keep in mind the details of what she's saying the voice told her, and the details of when this voice spoke to her. Another important thing to remember throughout the course of this trial is that this is not a case about the Lindsay Clancy that sits before you today. This case is about the Lindsay Clancy On January 24, 2023, at the time of the crimes, this was not a woman in the throes of psychosis on January 24, 2023. This was a woman who acted intentionally, rationally and swiftly to accomplish a very specific goal to kill. You'll see and hear evidence about all the things that she did that day, what she did in the days leading up to this incident leading to the murders. You'll hear her spending time with her family and friends. You'll hear her appearing to be in good spirits and doing better. For all intents and purposes, on that very day, you'll hear she interacted with people at the doctor's office. She came home and took care of the Kids. She talked to people on the phone via text message. The evidence will show you she was not psychotic that day. Throughout the evidence in this trial, you will learn about the defendant being the classic of virtue. In school, in her personal life, in her nursing career, she was someone who liked to control every little detail of her life, of her family's life. In contrast to pictures you'll see of the doting mother, the dedicated nurse, you'll also see a side of Lindsay Clancy that's different. Somebody extremely controlling, meticulous and manipulative. The days were laid out with specificity. Strict schedules were expected to be maintained. Food was planned carefully. Sleep was scheduled to the minute. And at the time after Callan was born, her last baby, the family had to adjust. And by all sources that I expect you're going to hear at that trial, that summer was great. But after Patrick had finished his paternity leave and was back to work full time, when she no longer had a nanny to watch the baby, do laundry, tidy up the house, follow her schedule, when she was responsible for it all, it was hard. It was hard for her to maintain that control. It was hard for her to bond with her kids. And in efforts to maintain control, she withheld information from her husband, from her doctors. She reported serious symptoms that were inconsistent with her daily activities. You'll hear. And ultimately, on January 24, 2023, the defendant made a calculated decision. This was a woman who no longer liked the life she thought she wanted. It was getting harder and harder to control. And when she saw the opportunity to escape, she made the selfish choice to take it. And to take Cora Dawson and Callan first before attempting to take her own life. Ladies and gentlemen, this is not a public debate about women's mental health and how the medical treatment treat system treats women. This case is about this defendant, Lindsay Clancy. There is no dispute that she was dealing with mental health issues during this time period prior to the murders. There'll be medical records, medical doctors, mental health professionals that will talk about treatment, prescriptions, hospital visits. All that's going to be before you. The evidence will show that this defendant had a means and access to mental health that most people don't. And she chose to deal with her mental health issues in the worst way. She chose to manipulate her providers, seek out the quick and easy fix when she was feeling depressed and anxious. And when she didn't get what she expected, she chose an alternate route. She sought a different doctor. She changed medications after days. She disengaged from treatment when she didn't like the plan. After only four months in treatment, she made a choice, a deliberate and intentional decision that she did not want to try anymore. And because no one could take care of her kids the way she wanted them to, she had to take them with her. Despite all the precision that she exhibited that day, you'll hear the timing of it all, the swiftness of the killings overcoming the interruption of Patrick's phone call, what she did not anticipate was that she would not be able to complete the act by killing herself. Ladies and gentlemen, people with mental illness commit crimes every day and are responsible for them. The fact that someone may suffer or have a mental illness, a mental disease or defect is not the end of the inquiry when it comes to guilt or innocence. It is whether a person can appreciate the wrongfulness or criminality of the conduct and conform their conduct to the law. Do they know what they were doing? And can they control their actions? The evidence in this case will prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this defendant coldly and efficiently executed first Dawson, then Cora, and finally Callan. One by one, she strangled the life out of each one of them. She did so with no hesitation, with deliberate, free meditation and. And extreme atrocity and cruelty. She is criminally responsible for the murders because the evidence will prove to you that she knew exactly what she was doing. She drew her husband out of the house, their father, so that she had the opportunity and the time to carry out these murders. She maintained the ability to control her conduct, conform her conduct when she attempted to kill herself to escape the consequences. At the conclusion of this case, we're going to come back and we're going to ask that you return guilty of the murders of Cora Clancy, Dawson Clancy, and Callan Clancy, because the defendant committed those crimes.

THE COURT [0:49:03]: Thank you, counsel. Mr. Reddington, do you wish to give an opening?

MR. REDDINGTON (for the defense) [0:49:07]: I do. I might use the easel mat replaced front of the TV screen so that the jurors are able to. You know, normally we thank jurors for I'm away from your life, jobs, your family. Coming to court, listening to a trial certainly is a service that's provided by you as citizens. But in this case, God bless you. People are going to have to listen to some of the most horrific things. Look at some of the most horrific things in jurors. It's a beautiful system. You pass between, as you've heard Don clerks say. You probably don't remember it, but it's all language, goes back to old England. It says that you, as jurors, pass between the government then. And she places herself on her country, which country. You are. You owe allegiance to nothing but your oath, your consideration and your time, your common sense. You bring your life experience to this trial. You render a verdict, and as jurors, experiences take the job very, very, very seriously. You people will never forget this case. And thank you for that service. Government says that this is a situation. It's not a referendum on women's having babies and having postpartum psychosis, postpartum depression, but it sure as hell is, because you're going to hear consistent with what his Honor told you in the instructions, consistent with the obligation that the government has. When they brought this charge. They brought this charge. Tim Cruz, the DEA right in the front row, brought this charge. He knew, as did his office, the facts of this case. And he knew when he brought this charge that it was going to kill the soul of this young woman. And they would bring their evidence in front of a jury that she knows that she killed these children. We'll sit here, listen to their evidence. But I suggest to you that the issue for consideration is what was going on in that woman's mind. You're going to hear evidence that, as the government said, Lindsay was a kind of a parent pleaser. She was a person that in school, had a lot of friends, still has friends. You'll hear evidence to this day from the sixth grade, high school, college, nursing school, you're going to hear evidence that Lindsay, in the course of being in high school, she was a high achiever. Gymnastics, stopped doing gymnastics because she hurt herself and didn't like to do the backflips and stopped doing gymnastics. But she was very athletic. You can hear evidence that right after she had the birth, the Last child, within four or five days, she ran a 5K. She was very, very, very physically fit. Her life was such that she watched what she ate, watched what she did in her life as far as activities, and was one heck of a mother. She loved her children. All the things that the VA said to you about those little kids and their life and what they like. She knows a thousand times more than what they know. And in that capacity as a mother, daily you'll see evidence that she would decorate rooms, that she and Patrick did have that achievement of a wonderful life. They had it all. They met in Boston. She was a young nurse out of school. He was working in his industry. They ended up falling in love. They got married, bought a nice house. And, you know, people will say they're living in this mansion. No, they're living in a very, very Humble house in Duxbury that they had to struggle to pay for. That house, you will see not from the view, because it's not enough that we have photographs. On top of the photographs, we have to have a video. And on top of the photographs and the video, we have to have an auto computerized animated display. And on top of the photographs, the video, the animated display, we have to get on a bus and go take a ride and look at the house where some guy and his wife are now living. That it doesn't look at all like what it looked like when Lindsay and Patrick were living there with their three kids. But there are videos that show what that home looked like that day. Prior to that, you'll see in every room, there are things hanging on the walls. Alphabets, colors, numbers, pictures of different cartoon characters. And I'm too old to even remember what they are. Movies, all sorts of toys, Erector sets, trucks all over the living room. There was no dining room. It was a large thing for the baby to be in. And then surrounded by toys. Every single room had toys in it. These children were loved and nurtured and cared for by her. She didn't want to get rid of her kids because of her selfish life. As the government indicates. She loved those children right up to the time of their death. You're going to see that there's photographs in this case that you will be able to evaluate that show that some of them might even be in the videos that the state police took. This case is a massive production by the district attorney's office. You have the district attorneys, the assistant district attorneys, the assistants to the assistant district attorneys. You have the state police crime laboratory. You have the detectives, you have the state police, the armed men that will go out and interview witnesses and will investigate. You have the victim, witness advocate, very nice lady, by the way, that deals with witnesses and people in a case such as this. It's a massive operation, and that's great. We should have that. But when you're considering the evidence, you consider the fact that you have two young people that were living this life, that were working. And Patrick, not because. Not because of. He just didn't want to work in an office anymore. He worked out of his basement. He worked in an office in the basement. He was there because of what Lindsay was going through. He was there. He lived it, and he will testify to it. He doesn't have to testify, quite frankly, and identify clothing and be distraught and placed in a position of horror in this courtroom, but he will testify to what they went through as a husband and a wife, the wife being pregnant, they had three kids. After the second child, she had postpartum. You're going to hear evidence that that's one of the issues that is important because that can lead to bipolar. One of the things that you don't do, which is taboo, is if you have somebody that's bipolar, you don't put them on an antidepressant. You don't put them on Zoloft, you don't put them on what's called an ssri, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. It messes with your brain. You don't do that. But it was done in this case. The reason that Lindsay went to the Doctors was in September 2022, July and August of 2022, they were very happy, lovely little family. September, things went sideways and she looked for. And you heard the government saying, remember what they say in their opening and remember that when they prepare a case and remember how they can point at different aspects of the case to show guilt that show that somebody's conniving. In this case, how many times we heard she faked the suicide. Faked a suicide. Little cuts, dinky little cuts, scratches. You'll get stated in the opening statement or time of the arraignment that she asked for a lawyer. That's rich. You're going to hear evidence that she was in her bedroom after the horrific act in the basement and that she was up in the bedroom, that she stood in front of a full length mirror, that she took the knife, the knife that was in the kitchen, that she had taken. When she took the knife, she cut her throat in front of the merit. This is no fake suicide. This is her when she was brought to the hospital. She was in the hospital. That's what her appearance was at the South Shore Hospital. When she's at the South Shore Hospital, she had wonderful care and treatment that was able, against her will, to save her life. Big suicide little scratches, dinky little scratches. This is photograph that was taken at the social hospital of her neck. Photograph taken of her wrist showing the split in the skin. Photograph showing, you'll see evidence of this. The bedroom floor next to the bed with the blood. Next to the cup. Sadly, a gift saying, because kids, you see the white residue inside the cup, that's where the pills were crushed up with leftover lemonade from the night before. And she consumed that. That's the knife. This here you'll see is sleep aids. See this here? Deep sleep pillow spray. She couldn't sleep. She couldn't sleep for months. More photographs of the injuries to her neck. And then in the course of the fake suicide speculation by the police, you'll see the evidence that she hung on the window ledge and like Spider Man, I guess, slid down the wall of the house. You're going to hear evidence that she flung and threw herself out the window, striking her head on the ground, full ground, causing what's known as a Jefferson fracture of her neck. She shattered, exploded her thoracic spine, shattered her cervical spine. The first disc broke every rib. And the Jefferson fracture, you hear evidence, is not consistent with a fake suicide by any means. Jefferson fracture is consistent with Superman when he got thrown off the horse. It's consistent with people that have the tragedy where they dive into a swimming pool as a result of which they get that fracture in their neck and they're paralyzed. She's paralyzed. She's not going to get up miraculously and walk out of this courtroom paralyzed and will be paralyzed for the rest of her life. She's living her own hell. She knows what happened with those kids and she wanted to die. When she was in the hospital, you're going to see evidence. Brigham and Women's Hospital, when they transferred her from South Shore Hospital air flight into Brigham and Women's Hospital. And she was then given the emergency room at the emergency treatment at the Brigham and Women's Hospital. You couldn't move in that room. There was so much equipment, so many wires, so many breathing tubes, so many machines humming, banging, clicking. And she spread out like she's crucified on the bed while she's being trapped, treated in that room, surrounded by armed police officers out in the hallway, guarding the hallway against what anyone could guess. Guarding the hallway, guarding the room, guarding the bed, standing there. She's handcuffed to the bed. She goes to the South Shore Hospital. Government speculates that again, you see how the government is able to create what they want for facts. That she is so cold and calculating that she said that she heard voices. After I brought a psychologist, Dr. Zeisel, into that room to see her, I had to move heaven and earth. You'll hear evidence that they wouldn't even let her have visitors. She couldn't even see her family for over a week. The cops wouldn't let anybody near her. That room was an armed camp. I had to move heaven and earth and practically get a court order to be able to get in there and see her while she's laying in the bed. And they suggest and will suggest that she said I heard voices. I heard command hallucinations telling me to kill the kids, then kill myself. After she talked to Paul Zisel, as if he was telling her what to say, because I'm the lawyer and I brought him into that hospital. You're going to hear evidence that Paul Zyzel is one of the most respected psychologists. You're going to hear evidence that he was embedded with the military in Afghanistan for years. You're going to hear evidence that he works for the government. When there's a shooting involved in the FBI, the CIA, or any of those Alphabet soup cops, he's involved. Out interviewing these people for post traumatic stress. I knew that he was the man to talk to this young woman in the hospital. When I finally was able to get into that room, into that hospital, he was with me. He did not tell her command voices. He, as a human being, gave her a cell phone so she could call Patrick. But you know what you're going to hear evidence from, From a woman who works at Brigham and Women's Hospital, saw Lindsay as soon as she came out of her coma. She is a woman that works with the religious services in that hospital. And the first thing that Lindsay wanted to know is, where's my family? And then she told her about what happened and told her about the command voices. This is well before she ever met me or Paul Zeissa. So you have to keep focused on the evidence because it's so easy to manipulate. There's no fake suicide. There was no plan to fake her sickness. This is a young woman that, with her husband, tried very hard to get the help she needed. She went and saw a doctor by the name, by the way. Remember in the opening, the government said she shopped around for doctors? I guess that she wanted to get doctors to, I don't know, give her drugs or something. You can hear evidence that she went online and she looked for someone that was into neonatal or post baby delivery because she knew that she was in trouble. She couldn't sleep. She had insomnia. It wasn't just, you know, when you get up in the middle of the night because your phone's on. She couldn't sleep. She'd only get two hours a night, three hours a night if she's lucky. As time went on in September, she went see Dr. Tufts. Jennifer Tufts is the name of the doctor. Jennifer Tufts. Then gave her a prescription, the Zoloft, which is a antidepressant. It's one of those SSRIs. She didn't take the Zoloft for a couple of Weeks because she was breastfeeding. She was afraid to have the baby, have anything to do with drugs, but ultimately couldn't do it any longer, Took the Zoloft and was spun out of control. Well, because you can hear evidence, because she was bipolar. You don't give a bipolar person Zola, but she got it. You're going to see what the effect was that it had on her. As that week went on, as that month drove on and she couldn't sleep and she was unable to emote, had no emotions, had no feelings, was unable to really react to anything, but had to take care of the kids. And as the government says, well, she was able to talk to people. She was able to talk to neighbors. Sure. You're going to hear because they don't follow. We're going to follow people that knew Lindsay as a mother, people that knew Lindsay. Teachers of those kids will indicate what kind of a mother she was, as will neighbors, as will friends, as will people that saw her during that period of time. You're going to hear evidence from Patrick as to the effect that this sickness had on her. She was looking into it. You're going to see her Google searches, you're going to see her Google searches go on and on and on about how to take care of postpartum. What type of drugs can you become addicted to? Benzodiazepines. What about, is it possible to have a treatment, A ketamine treatment? What do I do as far as insomnia? What do I do about my thoughts? To kill myself? Ways to kill. How do you kill? What do you do to kill? Government latches onto that. Oh, my God. She's looking up ways to kill. Let's make that a basis of our prosecution on this case. This is not a righteous prosecution. They're looking for every single piece of evidence that they can to show some ridiculous concept that she wanted to kill her beautiful kids because she didn't want to be a mother anymore. This is a woman that was a nurse. She worked for one of the best hospitals in the country. She was in a labor to delivery. You're going to hear from labor and delivery delivery nurses that will tell you how dedicated she was. Cora was named after the very, very first baby that she delivered as a nurse in the hospital. That's where the name Cora came from. Cora was named after her first delivery. This is a woman who did nothing in her life but dedicate her life to helping people and be a good person and a good nurse and a great mother. And as time went on Looking like anyone else would. Please help me. That's what it's all about. Give me help. And people consider the government will say she was able to talk to people. She wasn't drooling, she wasn't putting tin foil inside of a hat when she was going to the schools. No, she was able to talk to people. We actually have. We meaning the government. We have video of her and Patrick and the kids at the Museum of Science and they were actually having a good time. We also have video that shows them down at the Cape Codder, down the Cape with the kids and they're in bathing suits. I guess she was fine. She put on a pretty good face. So what does she do? She goes to see 9-12-22, she looked for a psychiatrist. That's when she hooks up, if you will, with Dr. Jennifer Tufts. Early October of 22, initial appointment. October 20th of 22 reports the adverse reaction that she was having to the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor Zoloft. November 16th, she goes to the South Shore Hospital emergency room because she was so depressed and so maxed out from lack of sleep and so unable to emote. She couldn't laugh, she couldn't cry, she couldn't have any feelings. She was a robot. She went to South Shore Hospital. She was referred and engaged with South Shore Perinatal Behavioral Health. This was Patrick's mother. This is Patrick's mother, Mrs. Clancy, who's nurse, well respected nurse, wonderful woman. She works at the South Shore Hospital labor and Delivery as well. She knows Lindsay and she told Lindsay, you gotta go to this outfit here, which was the South Shore Perinatal Behavioral Health. She didn't look them up because she wanted to get drugs. She was referred by her mother in law, who's a nurse. She went to see these people 11-21-22 when she was engaged at the South Shore Perinatal Behavioral Health. She's going on one drug to the next to the next. The drugs that she was prescribed. You see here and you'll hear evidence that first off, Jennifer Tufts. 9-15-22, Sertraline, that's the Zoloft. Then Lorazepam. October 21st, Jennifer Tufts. Then Hydroxyzine. Jennifer. Jennifer Tufts. Lorapazam. Jennifer Tufts. Buspirone. Jennifer Tufts Lorazepam increase. Jennifer Tufts buspirone increase from 1 mg to 5 mg. Jennifer Tufts. Trazodone from another individual. Floxetine, 10 mg from another person named Julie Paul. Julie Paul worked at the so sure Hospital when she went there to go to try to get some help from South Shore Perinatal Behavioral Health. More medications spiraling, continuing on down. Kat lived this, and he will testify to what they went through at this point. At the end of November, around Thanksgiving, she's reporting disassociation and confusion. They put her on her mri. This is around Thanksgiving. Things were so bad at this point that her mother and father came up from Connecticut and lived with them to take care of the kids, to help because she was walking around absolutely a zombie. She would rock on the sofa, crying hysterically, banging her head into the pillow of the sofa. Patrick will tell you what he observed with her. She dealt with her parents. Her parents were there to try to help. Is this someone that's faking because she doesn't want to be a mother anymore? The parents were there, mother and father, wonderful people. Mothers retired. Dad took pictures of high school kids for yearbooks. They did what they could coming into December after Thanksgiving, and they went, by the way, during the holidays down to Connecticut at one point to visit with the family. But December 4, she calls a suicide hotline seeking help. December 5, she's evaluated by what's known as the Aspire Crisis Team. You'll hear evidence about that. December 6th, the next day, they have an appointment with Nurse Gelada. Now, Nurse Gelada comes into this action because, again, not looking for more doctors, Paul retired or left or went to another job. So all of a sudden, Nurse Paul, who was treating her and prescribing meds, leaves. Here's Nurse Gelada. She's now going to be your person you deal with. That's all. She wasn't looking for some other doctors to get additional medication. She now is dealing with Gelada. They have an appointment with Nurse Gelada and Pat goes with her because he was so upset and says to Gelada, you hear evidence, do you think possibly that she's over medicated? Do you think somebody screwed up? And she says it possible. And then she puts her on more medication. She puts her on, okay, December of 2022, you're going to see that Nurse Gelada, who is now on this chart, is in blue. Nurse Gelada puts her on quetipine, 25 milligrams. November 30th, December 6th, diazepam, 5. December 7th, diazepam. December 7th, quetipine. December 9th, diazepam, five. December 13th, diazepam. And then she goes back to Jennifer Tufts because they just couldn't handle dealing with Rebecca Gelada because she wanted to wean off the drugs. Gelada told her to stay the course. She ends up going through the December 19th, 21st, 22nd, dealing with quetipine. 300 milligrams of quetipine. Now, what happens is they then suggest that what she has to do is go to Mass General Hospital. She goes to Mass General Hospital. At Mass General, they say, well, you can do like a day program or you can go to this fantastic program down in Rhode island called Women and Infants Program. So she goes to Women and Infants Program. She goes down for a day. She sits there in a group with other mothers and they talk and they look at her medication and they say, you're going to see it in the medical records. We can't really help you as postpartum. And that's what they specialize in, because you've got medications that you're going to have to clear because the medications can be affecting you. She was there for a day. One day. They never said anything. You're not suffering from postpartum. Postpartum. Every one of these doctors and nurses knew that she was suffering from postpartum. And now it's turning into psychosis. Now, as she goes through the period of time in January 5th, Alia Goodheart from McLean Hospital puts on Trazodone, 50 milligrams, Lorazepam, 1 milligram, leaving the hospital. She goes to that hospital on New Year's Eve. She and Patrick decide this is it. The two of them get in their car, family takes care of the kids. She goes to the hospital. Now it's locked wards. She goes into the hospital. She's there for five days, four days. During that period of time that she's there, she's in group. She doesn't see a doctor. But once there's no discussion of medications until the very end, you'll see the medical records. You can look at the medical records. You'll see that her daughter's birthday was coming up and she wanted to leave rather than the fifth on the fourth. This is not a discharge against medical advice. They cleared it. They said, yeah, fine, you're okay. Good. Good luck. The home. She went home and she went to the birthday party. The government will have witnesses, apparently, to show that she was able to socialize. Like, hi, Hawaii. At the trampoline where they had the birthday party for Cora. She's still living her nightmare during this period of time. January 9th, back to Jennifer Tufts puts her on diazepam. Jennifer Tufts kicks up the trazodone to 150mg. January 13th, you've got Rebecca Gelada puts her on Diazepam. And by the way, when she was down at Rhode island in the Nurse, Nurse and Babies Hospital. Not a hospital, it was like a service. The people that were treating her for that one day reached out to Jawada to find out what's up with the medication. Jawada never called him back. You're going to hear evidence, and it's in the medical records that when she and Patrick called Jalada to say, I got a wean off this, she didn't want more drugs. She wanted off the drugs. Jalada says, stay the course. She's going on vacation. I'll see you in a week. Comes back in a week. You're going to see that. Now, Jennifer Tufts puts her on Diazepam 2mg on January 16. Amitriptyline 10mg. January 16. Diazepam and Diazepam between Tufts and Gelato. And the last script is Diazepam 2mg. January 23rd. During that period of time, you can see that on December 20th and 22nd, she was evaluated at the Women's Infants Partial Hospitalization Program in Rhode Island. December 30th, she returned to Mass General Hospital emergency room. December 31st. That's after Mass General told her to go to the hospital. You can go to McLean. New Year's Eve. December 20th of 22, we're admitted to McLean Hospital for psychiatric treatment. January 6th of 23 was post discharge. Follow up appointment with Dr. Tufts. January 10th, 16 and 23, appointment of Dr. Tufts. Dr. Tufts. Dr. Tufts. Day before the killings. Dr. Tufts. These are the medications that she was on, that she had filled, that she took, that she didn't take. And apparently, according to the opening statement by the government, was manipulating the doctors, not telling the doctors. She told them that she was suicidal. She told them that she had suicidal ideation. And in December, to his and her ever dying regret, told Patrick in the presence of her mother that she was having psychosis, thoughts of hurting the children. This is a woman that did not get the medication, did not get the medical treatment that she so deserved. This is a woman that was suffering from psychosis at the time that she went down to that basement. She had no motive. She loved her children. She intended to kill herself. She didn't fake that. Threw herself out the window close to the hospital. You're going to see that when she's in the hospital. They said to her, you want to. What do you call it, a dnr? Do not receive resuscitated with her Absolutely did not want any dnr, didn't want to be resuscitated. Wanted a day to this day, once today. That's what we're dealing with on this prosecution. So you're going to hear from witnesses. It's going to be emotional, and thank you for your service.

THE COURT [1:22:28]: All right, members of the [jury], we're going to take the morning recess at this time. All right? I'm going to ask you to go out again. Don't discuss the case. We'll be back here probably about 15, 20 minutes, and we'll begin with the commonwealth case. All right, so we'll be in recess at this time. All right, [Counsel], we need to discuss anything at this time, your honor. So we'll be in recess for about 20 minutes. Thank you.

COURT OFFICER [1:23:25]: Clear the courtroom, please.

THE COURT [1:23:53]: We ready for the jury?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:23:54]: Yes, your honor.

COURT OFFICER [1:24:51]: It's. This court's no in session.

THE CLERK [1:25:19]: Please be seated, your honor, for the purpose of the record, we return back to the trial of Commonwealth versus Lindsay Clancy. All parties are present, including the defendant. All right.

THE COURT [1:25:27]: Well, members of the jury, thank you for your patience with us. We're now going to begin the presentation of evidence. Commonwealth, you'd call your first witness, please.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:25:35]: Thank you, your honor. [Commonwealth] calls Patrick Clancy.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:26:00]: Good morning, sir.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:26:01]: Can you stop right here? Where's your right?

THE CLERK [1:26:08]: And the jar in the matter now panning between the Commonwealth and the shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you guys? Thank you. You may have a seat, sir. All right.

THE COURT [1:26:19]: Good morning, sir. I'm going to ask you to speak into that microphone. You can be seated if you'd like, if you're more comfortable. Karm off, please.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:26:29]: Thank your honor. Good morning. Can you please state and spell your name for the record?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:26:34]: Yeah. My name is patrick clancy. It's p A, T, R, I, C, k, C, L A, n, c, Y.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:26:39]: And what is your date of birth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:26:41]: June 15, 1988.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:26:43]: What city do you live in now?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:26:45]: New York.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:26:46]: And what do you do for a living?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:26:48]: I work in tech.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:26:49]: How long have you worked in tech?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:26:54]: 14 years.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:26:57]: And were you previously married to a person named Lindsay Clancy?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:01]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:02]: And you're divorced now, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:03]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:04]: Do you see that person in the courtroom today?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:06]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:06]: Could you point to them and describe something they're wearing?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:11]: She's wearing a pink shirt.

THE COURT [1:27:13]: Record reflect the identification of the defendant.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:16]: Thank you. Where did you meet the defendant?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:21]: In south boston.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:22]: And when was that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:24]: I think it was May 2013.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:29]: And how did you meet her?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:31]: Through my cousin.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:33]: And would it be accurate to state that your cousin had been college roommates of the defendant?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:38]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:41]: And at some point in time, did you start dating?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:44]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:45]: And around what time was that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:47]: July 2013.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:50]: Did you eventually move in together?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:52]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:53]: Do you remember when that was?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:27:55]: September 2015.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:27:57]: And where did you live in Quincy. How long did you live in Quincy?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:28:05]: One year.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:28:06]: And where did you go after that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:28:07]: We bought a house in Weymouth.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:28:10]: And how long did you live in Weymouth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:28:13]: Two years.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:28:14]: Did you eventually get married?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:28:16]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:28:16]: And when was that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:28:19]: December 2016.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:28:22]: And was that while you were living in Weymouth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:28:25]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:28:27]: Did you have your first child when you were living in Weymouth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:28:30]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:28:30]: And what was her name?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:28:32]: Cora.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:28:33]: And what was her date of birth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:28:35]: December 24, 2017.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:28:43]: Prior to getting married, did the defendant ever tell you she had taken psychiatric medication while in nursing school?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:28:50]: Not that I recall.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:28:54]: After having Cora, did the three of you move somewhere else?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:28:59]: Yeah, we moved to Duxbury.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:29:01]: And what was your address in Duxbury?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:29:03]: 47 Summer street

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:29:06]: and do you recall when you moved there?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:29:09]: I believe it was July 2018.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:29:13]: And where were you working at that time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:29:17]: I was working for a startup called Automation. Anywhere.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:29:20]: At some point in time, did you start working for Microsoft?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:29:24]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:29:24]: And when was that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:29:27]: May 2020.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:29:29]: And when you worked for Microsoft, did you go to an office or did you work from home?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:29:34]: I worked from home.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:29:35]: And was that from 2020 onward that you worked from home?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:29:40]: No, I started working from home in 2018.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:29:42]: 2018. Okay. So from 2018 up until, let's say, 2023, you were working from home, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:29:50]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:29:54]: And did you have an office in your home, which you worked out of?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:29:58]: Eventually, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:29:59]: And where was that located?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:30:00]: In the basement.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:30:02]: And was that a finished basement?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:30:03]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:30:10]: Going back to after Cora was born, do you recall the defendant having any physical issues after the birth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:30:18]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:30:19]: And what were those?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:30:23]: I think there was a lot of tearing and she bled a lot.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:30:27]: Did it take her a while to recover physically?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:30:30]: I would say so, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:30:33]: Did she have maternity leave at that time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:30:37]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:30:39]: Where was she working?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:30:41]: Mass General Hospital.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:30:42]: And what was she doing there?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:30:44]: She's a labor and delivery nurse at

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:30:46]: that point in time. When she had Cora in 2017, how long had she been a nurse?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:30:56]: Three years, maybe.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:30:58]: And do you recall how long her maternity leave was with Cora?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:31:06]: That was the shortest of the three. I want to say it was 10 or 11 weeks.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:31:12]: And did you have paternity leave at that time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:31:15]: Yeah. I had two weeks.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:31:19]: When you went back after the two weeks back to work in the home, were there any issues that you noticed the defendant having?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:31:32]: Yeah, I'm sorry. I just want to correct an earlier statement. I was working for pegasystems when Cora was born.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:31:37]: Okay. And then eventually you worked for Microsoft.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:31:39]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:31:40]: Okay. And so after the two weeks of your paternity leave, the defendant was still on maternity leave, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:31:47]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:31:48]: Okay. And did she have to take any psychiatric medications at that time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:31:54]: Not that I know of. She had a lot of anxiety, but.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:31:58]: Okay, so you're saying that she had some anxiety at that time, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:32:02]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:32:02]: How did that manifest or how did you know that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:32:06]: She just really struggled with the date of going back to work.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:32:11]: So immediately after having Cora, as she healed physically, what was her mood like when you're both on leave?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:32:21]: It was great. It was good.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:32:22]: Good.

THE COURT [1:32:23]: Okay.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:32:23]: I mean, relatively. Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:32:25]: And so did the anxiety start as it became closer in time to when she had to go back to work?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:32:30]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:32:31]: How many shifts was she working at that time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:32:36]: Before Cora was born, she was working at least 40 hours, maybe more. After she went back to work, it was, I think, initially just one.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:32:49]: One shift?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:32:50]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:32:51]: And was that a 12 hour shift?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:32:53]: It was per diem. And then she eventually did two shifts. I think it was 20 weeks.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:32:59]: After 20 weeks, she moved to two shifts.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:33:03]: I'm sorry, it was 20 hours a week.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:33:06]: 20 hours a week.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:33:07]: Okay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:33:08]: And so from the time she worked her way back up to 20 hours a week at work until she had your next child, did it remain that 20 hours per week that she worked?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:33:19]: Pretty much, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:33:23]: And did you have any assistance in the home during that time after she went back to work? A nanny or a babysitter?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:33:30]: Yeah, we had babysitters. We had a babysitter who came probably 12 hours a week.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:33:38]: And did that typically happen after your wife had a shift that the nanny or the babysitter would be there?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:33:45]: Yeah, so she could sleep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:33:46]: Did the defendant work overnights?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:33:48]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:33:52]: And how long did you have that nanny or babysitter?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:33:55]: For several years.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:33:59]: Do you remember her name?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:34:01]: We called her Ms. Jen.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:34:02]: Ms. Jen. Do you remember her last name?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:34:05]: Shanahan.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:34:07]: And then you had a second child, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:34:10]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:34:11]: And what was their name?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:34:12]: Dawson.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:34:13]: And what was Dawson's date of birth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:34:15]: September 30, 2019.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:34:19]: And was Ms. Jen still helping out in the home at that time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:34:24]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:34:25]: And what was Dawson's delivery like?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:34:29]: Pretty traumatic.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:34:30]: How so?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:34:32]: He was in a. I think a breach position. So he came out in a. I guess I don't know much about it, but not an ideal way. And it caused just significant bruising and tearing.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:34:49]: So, again, did the defendant, with this second pregnancy, have some pain and difficulty physically healing from the birth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:34:57]: Yeah, much more so than Cora.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:35:00]: And was she on maternity leave at that time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:35:04]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:35:04]: How many weeks leave did she have at that time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:35:07]: I don't recall, but I think it was more than the traditional 12. I want to say it was 13 or 14, maybe more.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:35:38]: Page 13, if I may approach.

UNIDENTIFIED [1:35:41]: You may. You don't have to keep telling me the pages. That's okay. Okay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:35:47]: I could have you look at page 13 and just read to yourselves -6 through 10, and then just look up when you're finished. Does that refresh your memory as to how much maternity leave the defendant had after Dawson's birth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:36:13]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:36:13]: And what was it?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:36:14]: 18.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:36:15]: 18 weeks. Is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:36:18]: I believe so.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:36:19]: Okay. And after dealing with the physical pain of birth and starting to heal, how was her demeanor and experience during that maternity leave?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:36:36]: I think it was fine at first. It was always when she had to go back to work. That's when she struggled.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:36:44]: So that was a pattern that you saw after the baby? Maternity leave was good, and then she'd struggle going back to work.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:36:51]: She just had a really hard time being separated from them.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:36:57]: What was the plan for how many shifts she would work or how many hours she would work after Dawson was born?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:37:04]: I believe it was the same thing.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:37:10]: And in terms of Ms. Shanahan, the babysitter, you had mentioned before, that she was there about 12 hours a week. Did that stay consistent after Dawson's birth, or was it more or less probably consistent. After Dawson's birth? Did the defendant ever tell you whether she was on any psychiatric medication after Dawson's birth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:37:37]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:37:39]: Did she seek treatment or tell you she sought treatment after Dawson's birth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:37:44]: Yeah, she got a therapist for a short period of time, but it didn't last very long.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:37:50]: Did she tell you that at the time or later?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:37:53]: At the time.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:37:54]: And did she have any psychiatric hospitalizations or commitments at that time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:37:59]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:38:00]: What about after Cora's birth? Any psychiatric hospitalizations or treatments?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:38:04]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:38:10]: Was there a time after Dawson's birth where she wanted to declutter your garage?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:38:20]: Maybe at some point.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:38:22]: And did you assist her with that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:38:24]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:38:26]: And how was that done?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:38:29]: We had a lot of stuff to throw away, and I think we sold some stuff on Facebook, Marketplace. We just had a lot of stuff.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:38:37]: So did the two of you go through the items in the garage and organize it into what you would keep, what you would throw away and what you would sell?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:38:44]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:38:46]: And so it was very organized?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:38:48]: I would say so, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:38:52]: And you finished the project, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:38:56]: It was always ongoing.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:39:02]: Now, eventually, you had your third child, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:39:05]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:39:05]: And what was. What was their name?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:39:07]: Callan.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:39:08]: And what was his date of birth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:39:10]: May 26, 2022.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:39:15]: Can you describe that delivery for us?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:39:19]: It was great. From what I could tell, it was relatively quick. It was during the day we were both smiling after. And I don't think there is as

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:39:33]: much physical trauma, nothing compared to what happened with Cora or Dawson. Is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:39:39]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:39:41]: Did the defendant have maternity leave after Callan's birth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:39:48]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:39:48]: And how long was that leave?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:39:50]: She never went back.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:39:52]: How long was it planned for initially?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:39:55]: I want to say 18 weeks.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:39:58]: And were you on paternity leave as well?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:40:01]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:40:01]: And how long was your paternity leave?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:40:03]: 12 weeks.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:40:06]: So with Kellen being born on May 26, 2022, the two of you were home with the children that summer on leave, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:40:15]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:40:21]: What was family like, family life like during that time period, those summer months?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:40:27]: It was great. We had a lot of time off. I was able to spend a lot of time with. I spent a lot of time with Cora and Dawson. So I would. I would take them around, you know, the playgrounds and birthday parties and stuff like that.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:40:43]: And what would Lindsay be doing while you were with Cora and Dawson?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:40:47]: Sometimes she'd come with us with Callan, but oftentimes we did kind of like a divide and conquer. So she'd be home with Callan, and I'd be out with the older kids.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:40:56]: And what types of family activities did you all do during those summer months?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:41:02]: We went on a couple vacations. We went to the beach. We went out on our boat and went to friends houses.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:41:13]: During those months, when you're going to the beach and out on the boat and visiting with friends, were there any signs of anxiety in the defendant during those months?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:41:26]: I would say starting in September. Yes, but in the previous months, not so much.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:41:32]: When had she been scheduled to go back to work?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:41:36]: I don't remember the exact date, but I think it was October.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:41:39]: So again, it was that pattern of. As it became closer in time to go back to work, she started to struggle.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:41:45]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:41:53]: During the times when she would get anxious, when it was time to go back to work and she would start being anxious, did you. Did you ever have any difficulty understanding her when she spoke?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:42:05]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:42:07]: And did she Ever exhibit any behavior that made you concerned enough to call a doctor or want to commit her?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:42:18]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:42:21]: When she was showing this anxiety, what were you seeing in her behavior?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:42:29]: Just a lot of stress. You know, there were days where she had all three kids, and, you know, there's different nap schedules and different needs, so it was just really stressful.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:42:41]: Okay. And you're still working in the basement office at this point after Callan's born? Correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:42:52]: I went back to work late August.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:42:54]: Okay. And when you work downstairs, how often would you come upstairs during the day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:43:01]: All the time for lunch or just to say hi?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:43:07]: Were there times when Lindsay would ask you to hold the baby in the office while she was doing something?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:43:15]: So, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:43:17]: And were there times when you would watch one or more of the children while she took another to a doctor's appointment or to an errand or something

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:43:25]: like that, yeah, if it worked out with the schedule, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:43:29]: Okay. What was the plan in terms of how many shifts or hours she was going to work after Callan?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:43:44]: I believe the plan was to shifts per week. But there was a lot of flexibility. She could have done really anything.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:43:52]: Do you recall saying previously that you were going to start off with one shift and hopefully move to two?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:43:59]: I could imagine, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:44:00]: Okay. And you said there was some options, Correct. What were those options if that didn't work out?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:44:09]: Well, I always put money aside in basically our own maternity account just so that if she needed more flexibility, we planned for that.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:44:20]: So if she needed more time off, more than what her work would provide for her, you were financially secure enough to afford that at this time? During this time, in the fall of 2022, were Cora and Dawson attending preschool?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:44:42]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:44:42]: And where was that Learning Sprouts. And where is Learning Sprouts located?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:44:47]: Duxbury.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:44:50]: How often were they attending Learning Sprouts?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:44:55]: Full days. Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and a half day on Thursday.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:44:59]: And what was a full day? What hours?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:45:02]: I think it was 9 to 4.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:45:03]: 9am to 4pm I think so, yeah. And what was a half day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:45:08]: Like 9 to 12:30? I think they might have had some days where they started early, I can't

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:45:14]: remember, but basically all day, you know, working hours? All day. Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and then the mornings on Thursday. Is that right? Right. And who would do drop offs for school?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:45:32]: We both would.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:45:33]: And what about pickups? Both of us together or take turns?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:45:38]: Usually we take turns.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:45:42]: Now, at some point in time after Callan was born, did you hire a nanny?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:45:48]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:45:49]: And when was that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:45:54]: I think it was in August or September of 2022.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:45:59]: Yeah. And who was that? Nanny?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:46:04]: Elainey. I don't remember her last name.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:46:07]: Does Elaine Rossi sound familiar?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:46:09]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:46:11]: And do you recall how many days per week Elaine was going to work when you hired her?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:46:20]: I think it was 12 hours.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:46:23]: But it wouldn't be 12 hours altogether. It would be spread out over the week. Is that right?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:46:28]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:46:30]: And who was she hired to take care of?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:46:35]: Everyone. But mainly it was going to be

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:46:38]: Callan because Cor and Dawson would be

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:46:41]: at school for the most part, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:46:45]: And what was the plan for when Elaine would work? It was at that same type of After Lindsay worked shifts or something different.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:46:56]: Yeah. The goal was after Lindsay would work. I mean, she never went back to work. But I think we wanted to get her just, like, oriented with our house and the kids. So we had her start before and then she was amazing. She was an amazing caregiver. But eventually we decided to let her go because Lindsay was home anyways.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:47:27]: So when you initially hired her in August or September, you said Lindsay was going back to work in October. So is that what you're talking about? That give her that month or so? Give Elaine that month or so to get situated and acclimated to the house?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:47:40]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:47:41]: Have the kids get used to her. Is that right?

THE COURT [1:47:43]: Yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:47:45]: Did she also. Elaine. Did she also do some cleaning, laundry and food prep?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:47:51]: Yeah. Yeah, she was amazing.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:47:55]: Now, during this time frame, again, in the end of summer, fall period of 2022, what types of activities were Cora and Dawson doing?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:48:07]: Gymnastics. Are you talking about organized activities or

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:48:16]: just in general organized?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:48:19]: I only remember gymnastics.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:48:21]: Did they both do the gymnastics?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:48:22]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:48:23]: And then were they also participating, maybe not in organized situations, but in swimming, soccer, skiing, things like that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:48:29]: Yeah, they were doing swimming. And yeah, Cora and Dawson did skiing.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:48:34]: Yeah.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:48:34]: Cora started doing soccer. She didn't really like it, but did a little bit.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:48:38]: And who took them skiing?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:48:40]: I did.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:48:41]: And in terms of the swimming, where would you do that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:48:46]: We did it at Goldfish in Rockland, I think. And then Lindsay took them somewhere in, I think Plymouth. I don't remember where it was.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:48:58]: So you would each take them swimming at various times? Yeah. Did you also do some swimming at the Kingsbury Club?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:49:06]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:49:06]: And what is the Kingsbury Club?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:49:08]: It's like a gym with a pool and they had childcare, so sometimes they would hang out in the kids room and we would go work out.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:49:17]: And is that in Duxbury?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:49:21]: It's on the Kingston Duxbury line. I'm not entirely sure, but yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:49:25]: Okay. And so you could drop the kids off at the daycare portion and go work out or swim or something like that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:49:31]: Yeah, or we could go with them and go swimming. Okay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:49:36]: Did Lindsay work out?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:49:38]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:49:38]: She was very health conscious?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:49:40]: I think so.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:49:43]: And were you aware that she had been an athlete in both high school and college?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:49:47]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:49:49]: Do you recall what she did?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:49:51]: Competitive cheerleading.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:49:55]: Now, when you were together, what type of exercise would she do, or did she prefer.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:50:02]: She did a lot of running. She did the peloton, and she did. There's, like, some program called Beachbody, I think.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:50:10]: Do you recall when she started Beachbody?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:50:15]: Maybe in the spring of 2022? I'm not sure.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:50:18]: So right before having Callan, would that be accurate?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:50:22]: Probably, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:50:32]: When you returned to work and you said that was in August, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:50:38]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:50:39]: What was the defendant's demeanor when you returned to work?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:50:44]: Increased anxiety and definitely, you know, stressed out.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:50:53]: Do you recall describing her as slightly stressed but in good spirits?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:50:59]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:51:01]: And when she was stressed out, when she was showing some anxiety, how did that manifest?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:51:10]: I don't really know how to describe it. I guess it's just any way you can tell that somebody's stressed out and. I don't know. She would say, I'm not looking forward to going back to work. I remember once she said, it's just so unnatural to be separated from your newborn. You know, stuff like that.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:51:31]: So she didn't want to go back to work, is that what you're saying?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:51:34]: I think she did. It was just a really difficult transition for her.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:51:42]: And do you recall attending a wedding on September 17, 2022?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:51:48]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:51:49]: And where was that wedding?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:51:51]: New Hampshire.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:51:52]: Was it just you and Lindsay that went, or did the whole family go?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:51:55]: We brought Kellen.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:51:57]: And when you were at that wedding, do you recall having a conversation with Lindsay about medication?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:52:05]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:52:06]: What did she say to you?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:52:08]: We were walking downtown, and she said, I think I'm going to start taking Zoloft.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:52:14]: And did she tell you why she wanted to start taking Zoloft?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:52:17]: She said, I think it's really gonna help with my anxiety and with going back to work.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:52:22]: And did she tell you how she was going to go about getting Zoloft?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:52:28]: Yeah, I. I asked her, how are you gonna get Zoloft? It's a prescription. And she said, you know, usually just ask the doctor and they'll give it to you.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:52:40]: And did she tell you that she was going to see a psychiatrist?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:52:45]: Yeah, Belisa.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:52:48]: And when she. When she did that, did she tell you who she was going to see?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:52:53]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:52:55]: Did you eventually learn the name of the person who she went to see months later?

THE COURT [1:53:00]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:53:00]: Okay, and who was that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:53:02]: Jennifer Tufts.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:53:04]: Okay. And do you. Did Lindsay tell you when she started seeing Dr. Jennifer Tufts?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:53:11]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:53:12]: Did you learn or. Strike that. Did Lindsay tell you when she received the medication and when she started it?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:53:21]: No, I should correct that. It's not exactly.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:53:29]: Well, let me just ask a question first.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:53:31]: Sure.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:53:34]: Did you have a conversation with Lindsay about the medication she was on?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:53:39]: Eventually, yeah, but I didn't know the start date.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:53:41]: Okay, and so when did this conversation take place, this eventual conversation?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:53:48]: Probably the end of October.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:53:49]: Okay, and at that point, what did Lindsay tell you about the medication and how she was taking it?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:53:58]: I don't remember exactly, but I learned that she was taking the Zoloft, and. I don't remember really too much about it after that. She was just taking it and, you know, we were seeing how it went.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:54:16]: And did you notice any changes in her physically during that time frame that she was on it and you. You weren't aware she was on it

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:54:28]: at the time? No, I don't think I did.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:54:30]: Okay, and did you notice any changes in her emotionally during that time when she was on it, but you weren't aware she was on it?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:54:41]: Yeah, she wasn't really improving. She just kind of seemed to be gradually becoming more in, like, a depressed state.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:54:51]: And how was that manifesting? What were you noticing?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:54:55]: It was just small things. I was planning a trip with Cora to San Francisco and she was nervous about us going. And I remember we went to a Halloween event, and just leading up to it, I remember she was. It just kind of seemed like she didn't want to go for some reason.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:55:17]: Okay. Now, do you recall learning that she had actually obtained the prescription the day before she told you she was going to ask for the prescription?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:55:31]: I did later learn that, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:55:33]: So she's telling you at the wedding that she is going to ask to take this medication and going to see a psychiatrist to get on that medication, but she actually already had the prescription, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:55:43]: Correct. I don't think she started taking it yet, but she already had it.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:55:46]: Okay, And did Lindsay tell you how long she took the medication for?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:56:04]: She may have. I don't remember the exact time frame. I just remember she took it for a period of time, and then her sleep started to suffer, so she stopped taking it.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:56:16]: And did she tell you whether or not she spoke to her provider, her doctor, about the troubles she was having?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:56:25]: I believe so, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:56:27]: And did she tell you, did Lindsay tell you that she was Advised to double the dose of the Zoloft.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:56:37]: She may have. I don't remember,

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:56:41]: page 31 on the approach. You could look at lines 20 to 22 and then just look up when you're finished.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:56:55]: Okay. Yeah, apparently she did.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:56:57]: Did that refresh your memory?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:56:59]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:57:00]: And so did Lindsay tell you that she was supposed to double the dose?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:57:04]: I guess she did, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:57:20]: Did you notice any changes in her sleep during that time when she was on the medication but you weren't aware she was on it?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:57:28]: Eventually, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:57:30]: When was that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:57:32]: I don't remember the exact dates,

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:57:36]: but

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:57:36]: she just, you know, one night she said, do you mind? She started it by saying, I'm not mad or anything, but do you mind sleeping in the basement and letting me just sleep in our room with Callan? And then you can take the monitors down in the basement, and if Cora and Dawson get up, you can get up with them. She said, I've just been having a lot of trouble sleeping, and I'm hoping that, like, if there's less in and out, then there'll be less disruption.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:58:07]: Had you noticed prior to her telling you this that she was up a lot or having trouble sleeping, like, physically seeing her awake?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:58:15]: No, not that I recall.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:58:17]: And did you, in fact, start sleeping in the basement for a period of time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:58:20]: I think I did it for, like, two nights, and then she actually went down in the basement.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:58:24]: Okay, so then you went back up to your bedroom to sleep, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:58:27]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:58:28]: And how long did Lindsay sleep in the basement for after that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:58:33]: Maybe a couple weeks.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:58:35]: And so during that time frame, was she telling you that she was still having trouble sleeping?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:58:40]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:58:41]: But you weren't actually down there watching her sleep? You're getting this information from her, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:58:46]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:58:55]: Were you aware that out of the Zoloft prescription she was given, she only took seven pills?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:59:02]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:59:08]: After you had the conversation with Lindsay where she said she was going to double the dose of Zoloft, did you notice any difference in her demeanor or behavior?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:59:19]: I would say yes. I don't know if I connected it with the doubling of her Zoloft, but over that period of time, she always. She just kept getting worse and worse.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:59:31]: And what period of time was that? What month are we in?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:59:34]: Mid October to the end of December.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:59:37]: Okay, so she got the prescription in September, started taking it in October, took seven pills, but was having difficulty in December. Is that what you're saying, from this medication?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [1:59:50]: Yep. Well, I don't know which medication it was from, but yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [1:59:54]: Okay. At some point in time, did she. Lindsay Switched providers?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:00:01]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:00:02]: And why did she do that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:00:05]: Because the. Whatever she was doing with Jennifer Tufts, it wasn't working. She was just. She was only getting worse, and she thought that it would be better if she worked with, I guess, more of like a perinatal psychiatrist.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:00:24]: And did she get a referral or recommendation of where to go?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:00:27]: I think so, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:00:28]: Do you know who gave her that recommendation?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:00:31]: It might have been my mother.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:00:32]: And your mother's a nurse at Sauser Hospital, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:00:35]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:00:36]: Does she also do labor and delivery work?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:00:38]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:00:39]: And so do you know which provider or which office she recommended?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:00:47]: Yeah. Her name is Julie Paul.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:00:49]: And was she at the South Shore Perinatal Clinic?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:00:52]: Something like that, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:00:53]: Okay. And do you know when that was?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:00:57]: I don't know the dates on that.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:01:04]: Do you recall saying previously that it was towards the end of November?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:01:09]: Yeah, that sounds. That sounds accurate, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:01:12]: Okay. And you said she initially saw someone named Julie Paul. Is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:01:19]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:01:21]: And do you know how long she saw Julie Paul at that facility?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:01:27]: I think it was only four or five days.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:01:31]: And were you aware that Julie Paul left that office?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:01:34]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:01:35]: And do you know who Lindsay saw after Julie Paul?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:01:39]: Rebecca Gelada.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:01:41]: And was Rebecca Gelada a nurse practitioner?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:01:44]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:01:46]: Were you aware that she also saw a licensed social worker therapist named Letitia Dukes while she was at the South Shore Perinatal Clinic?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:01:59]: I don't recall Letitia Dukes, but it's possible.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:02:02]: So Lindsay never told you that she had therapy sessions with a person named Letitia Dukes during that timeframe?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:02:09]: I don't remember any therapy sessions now.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:02:11]: Okay. After switching to Julie Paul and then Rebecca Gelada, did Lindsay start coming home with different prescription bottles?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:02:27]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:02:28]: Okay. And were some of these medications that she came home with, were some of them during the time she was with Dr. Tufts?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:02:39]: I think some of them were, yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:02:40]: And some of them were while she was with Julie Paul, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:02:44]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:02:45]: And then some while she was with Nurse Practitioner Gelada, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:02:50]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:02:50]: Okay. And would it be accurate to state that you provided the District Attorney's office with a printout from CVS Pharmacy of all the prescriptions that were filled for Lindsay from September through January? September 2022 through January of 2023?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:03:21]: Yes.

THE COURT [2:03:25]: Any objection?

UNIDENTIFIED [2:03:26]: No. Of course. Yeah.

THE COURT [2:03:33]: In members of the jury, one of the things I forgot to tell you is anything that's entered as an exhibit, you'll have with you in the deliberating room when you're deliberating, so you'll have a chance to go over that as well. So you'll have anything that's marked as an exhibit. Okay. Thank you.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:03:55]: Now, while she was taking these medications, the various pills, were you always with her, watching and monitoring exactly what she took?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:04:04]: Not always, no.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:04:05]: Sometimes you'd see it, sometimes you wouldn't.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:04:08]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:04:11]: Directing your attention to February 6, 2023. Did you go to the district attorney's office and. Or have your attorney go there and provide a bag of prescription medication that had belonged to Lindsay?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:04:26]: Yeah, I think the police took a bag of prescription medications that night, the night my kids passed away. And then there was a bag that I had in my truck that I was supposed to. Nurse practitioner Chilada said you can bring them to, like, a police station, they get rid of them for you, But I never got around to it.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:04:55]: And where had you stored those in your truck?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:04:58]: In the center console. It's, like, underneath the center console that opens.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:05:05]: You have one of those center consoles that open up, but then there's another larger compartment below it.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:05:09]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:05:10]: So was it your plan to bring these to a location where they could be properly disposed?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:05:16]: Yeah, I didn't want to just throw them in the trash, so.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:05:19]: And these were all medications that had been prescribed in the past to Lindsay, but she was no longer taking, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:05:26]: Right.

MR. REDDINGTON (for the defense) [2:05:34]: Your Honor, I don't think I have any objection to any of their exhibits. So she doesn't have to keep showing it to me.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:05:40]: That's fine.

THE COURT [2:05:41]: So I'll assume if you do have an objection, just rise, let me know. Okay. Thank you.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:05:47]: So, for the record, a bag here with nine pill bottles as Exhibit 2, please.

THE COURT [2:05:59]: Thank you.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:06:08]: And so, Looking in Exhibit 2, we have the Zoloft that was prescribed by Dr. Tufts and filled on September 15, 2022. And I think we. I asked you earlier, you weren't aware that only seven pills were taken out of this, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:06:28]: That's correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:06:29]: Okay. And then there's another prescription in here for Ativan that was filled on October 26, 2022. Were you aware that only six pills were taken out of that bottle?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:06:43]: Can you say the date again?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:06:45]: October 26, 2022.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:06:47]: And how many did it start with?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:07:15]: 30 pills.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:07:17]: Okay. I mean, I don't have those exact numbers on how many she took, but there was. There were adjustments made on the dosage of the Ativan so it aligns with.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:07:31]: But the question was, were you aware that only six pills were taken out of this prescription?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:07:38]: No, but I think the context is important.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:07:41]: Okay. Were you aware that there was a prescription for busperirone or bus bar filled on October 26, 2022, in which only two pills were taken out of the 30 that were prescribed.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:07:57]: I found out about the bus bar later and I didn't know about the number of pills taken.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:08:04]: And then were you aware that there was a prescription for hydroxynine prescription filled on October 26, 2022 for 30 pills in that only three pills were taken out of this bottle, which. Hydroxyine.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:08:21]: What is that?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:08:23]: I believe it's in some type of similar to an antihistamine like Benadryl or something like that.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:08:29]: Oh, okay. I don't really recall much about that drug.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:08:35]: And. Were you aware in this bag there was another prescription for Buspar that was filled on November 9, 2022? 30 pills prescribed and no pills were taken out of this bottle. Were you aware of that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:08:59]: I wasn't keeping track of the number of pills taken out of each bottle.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:09:05]: And then just ask you about one more. The trazodone prescribed on November 16, 2022, by a doctor from South Shore Hospital. 30. 30 pills. Were you aware that only seven and a half pills were taken out of this prescription?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:09:24]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:09:26]: So there were a lot of pills prescribed, but not a lot of pills taken? Correct.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:09:33]: Is that comprehensive of all the pills

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:09:35]: that were prescribed, these are the pills that you brought into the police station?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:09:39]: So out of these, out of those, yeah. It's possible that not a lot were taken.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:09:59]: Do you recall what was the most amount of pills prescribed? I guess I could ask this better. What was the maximum number of medications she was on at any one time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:10:16]: I want to say three or four.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:10:18]: Okay. Would it surprise you to know that she. At any given time, the most she was prescribed was three, but most of the time it was two medications that she was prescribed at any given time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:10:35]: It wouldn't be terribly surprising. No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:10:38]: Now, on November 16, 2022, did Lindsay visit South Shore Hospital?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:10:46]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:10:48]: And why did she go to the South Shore Hospital that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:10:53]: I believe that day was because she basically went 48 hours without sleeping.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:10:59]: And was she having heart palpitations?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:11:03]: I think so, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:11:05]: Were you aware that she had taken a weed gummy that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:11:10]: Um, I don't recall.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:11:14]: And are you aware that she didn't tell medical staff at the hospital when describing her symptoms and her medication that she left out that she had used marijuana?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:11:25]: I wasn't with her, so I don't know what she talked about at the hospital.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:11:29]: So she drove herself to the hospital?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:11:30]: She did.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:11:32]: And she drove herself home from the hospital then. Is that correct? Now, during this time Frame Between September and November of 2022. Are you still participating in activities as

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:11:48]: a family between November and December?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:11:51]: Between September and November, yeah.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:11:54]: Okay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:11:55]: And what types of things were you doing?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:12:01]: We celebrated Halloween. I don't really remember what else, but I think we were doing things regularly.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:12:14]: Do you recall going to an event with food trucks?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:12:26]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:12:27]: And you recall going to an event in November where there were trains to ride with the kids?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:12:35]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:12:41]: The photo from the food truck event. And the photo from the training. So Exhibit 3. Is this Lindsay Core and Callan at that event?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:13:11]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:13:12]: An exhibit for Ms. Lindsay with all three kids at that event in November?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:13:18]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:13:31]: Did you have plans for Thanksgiving that year?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:13:34]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:13:34]: What were your plans?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:13:38]: I believe the order was we went to Wallingford where her parents lived, and the week before. And then the week after we went to my sister's house.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:13:50]: And where did your sister live? What town?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:13:53]: South Hamilton.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:13:55]: And that was a week after Thanksgiving, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:14:00]: I think so, yeah. Yeah, it was.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:14:08]: And is this a photo from Thanksgiving at your sister's house?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:14:14]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:14:16]: I could have this photo marked as Exhibit 5, I believe.

THE COURT [2:14:19]: All right. That may be marked.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:14:29]: Showing you what's been marked. Exhibit 5. Is this Lindsay here on the left?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:14:35]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:14:37]: And are those your sisters in the photo with her?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:14:40]: That's one of my sisters and my sister in law.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:14:43]: Okay. And have they coordinated outfits for the day, the shirts?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:14:48]: Yeah, I think my sister did.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:14:54]: What was Lindsay's demeanor that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:14:59]: She was in rough shape.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:15:01]: Rough shape?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:15:01]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:15:02]: How so?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:15:03]: She wasn't talking much. She had low energy. She was really depressed. I just remember when she showed up, my sister in law gave her a

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:15:11]: big hug and she was able to get through dinner. Eat dinner with everyone?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:15:18]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:15:18]: Okay. She interacted with people, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:15:23]: I would say very little, but to some degree, sure.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:15:26]: And she took care of the kids with you while she was there?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:15:30]: We both took care of the kids together.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:15:37]: You mentioned earlier that your wedding anniversary is in December, is that correct? Yeah. Do you recall going out for your anniversary on December 3, 2022, going into Boston?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:15:50]: No, we didn't go out.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:15:52]: You don't recall arranging for a massage for Lindsay and then going to the Omni Parker house and going out to dinner that night?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:16:02]: No. December 3, 2022. We stayed home.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:16:04]: You stayed home.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:16:05]: Okay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:16:29]: Showing you a photo of you and Lindsay. Do you recognize this photo?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:16:35]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:16:36]: When was that taken?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:16:39]: I. I'm not really sure.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:16:42]: It wasn't taken on December 3rd when

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:16:43]: you were out celebrating your anniversary in 2022?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:16:47]: Yes.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:16:48]: No, no.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:16:52]: We.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:16:53]: We wanted to go out, but we canceled because she wasn't feeling well. So we stayed home. We got takeout.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:16:58]: Okay. Did you also in, on November 26, 2022, go out as a family to get a Christmas tree?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:17:13]: Yes. Well, probably. I don't know, but, yeah. Around that time?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:17:17]: Yes. Okay. Showing you two photos. Are these from that day when you got the Christmas Tracy?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:17:32]: Yeah. That looks accurate.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:17:46]: And then the second one is exited at 7. Showing you exhibit six. This is all of you at the tree farm?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:18:10]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:18:12]: And Exhibit 7. Those are the kids?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:18:16]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:18:28]: Around December 6, 2022, did Lindsay tell you she was starting a new medication?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:18:39]: I don't remember specifically.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:18:42]: Is it that you don't remember the date or you don't remember her starting a new medic?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:18:48]: I'm not sure.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:18:49]: Do you remember Lindsay telling you at some point she was starting the medication, Seroquel?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:18:55]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:18:55]: Do you remember around what time frame that was?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:18:59]: I thought it was before December 6th.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:19:01]: Okay. And do you recall. How she was physically after starting the Seroquel?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:19:19]: Awful.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:19:20]: How. So

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:19:22]: that was really where her big spiral started. She started to lose a lot of weight, and she became very depressed, and she was having a really hard time.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:19:36]: And did she describe to you some thoughts or feelings that she was having at that time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:19:44]: Yeah. She started to say she was suicidal.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:19:47]: And was that in December of 2022?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:19:50]: I think so, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:19:52]: And when she told you she was suicidal, did you ask her if she had a plan on how to kill herself?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:19:58]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:19:59]: And what was her response?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:20:02]: She said no.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:20:04]: And did she ever mention a specific way or plan she had to kill herself to you?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:20:09]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:20:13]: And at some point in time, did she tell you that this. This was the first time she had had suicidal thoughts?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:20:25]: I don't know if she mentioned it was the first time or not. I just remember her saying she had them.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:20:30]: Had you ever heard her say that to you before, that she was having suicidal thoughts?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:20:34]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:20:38]: Did you own at that time a Surface Pro, a type of tablet that works as a laptop?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:20:44]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:20:44]: And who had access to that laptop?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:20:48]: We both did.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:20:49]: You and Lindsay?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:20:50]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:20:51]: And going back to August 22, 2022, did you click on a link on that Surface Pro that was titled methods of suicide?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:21:01]: Not that I recall.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:21:02]: Okay. And August 22, 2022, that was before Lindsay had been on any medications as far as you know? Correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:21:11]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:21:17]: Going back to December, she's told you that she's having these thoughts. What's your reaction when she tells you that she's having these Suicidal thoughts.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:21:32]: I just wanted to support her. I asked those questions back to her.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:21:36]: And

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:21:39]: her mother was coming up pretty regularly anyways, so we let them know and we just tried to be supportive.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:21:48]: Did she also tell you at that time, at the beginning of December, that she was having some other intrusive thoughts?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:21:55]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:21:55]: Is that how she described them or how you described them? Intrusive thoughts?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:22:00]: I would say both.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:22:01]: Okay. And when she told you that she was having intrusive thoughts, did you ask her what they were?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:22:08]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:22:09]: And what was her response?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:22:11]: She described thoughts of. Of hurting the kids or. Or having. Or them having some sort of ailment. So, like, she was very worried that Cora had. Whenever she had a stomach ache, she became overly worried that she was, you know, like, had like a liver problem or something much more dramatic than it was.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:22:34]: Okay, but going back to that first part, she said she had thoughts of harming the kids. Is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:22:39]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:22:40]: And did she tell you whether or not she had specific thoughts of how she would harm the kids?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:22:47]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:22:48]: And she didn't describe that as hearing this external voice telling her to harm the kids, Correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:22:54]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:22:54]: She told you she was having intrusive thoughts herself of having. Of harming the children? Correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:23:02]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:23:03]: And did you ask her how she was going to harm the kids?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:23:09]: I didn't ask it in that way. It was the same thing. I said, do you have a plan? And is it disturbing to you? And she said, no. And then she said yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:23:18]: And let me go back for a minute there. You said, do you have a plan? And she said no. What was the second question?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:23:25]: Second part of the question, do you find it disturbing? And she said yes. And she described it as really the way she was describing it, as something that might happen to the kids.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:23:38]: There was more something might happen, then she might do something. Is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:23:43]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:23:44]: And did. Did she tell you how long she had those thoughts for?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:23:52]: She didn't give it duration.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:23:54]: And how many times did she tell you this, that she had thoughts of harming the kids?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:24:03]: Couple times.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:24:04]: And was that a couple times over the course of a night or two in December?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:24:08]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:24:09]: And as a result of her telling you this, that she had thoughts of harming the kids, what did you do?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:24:17]: Her parents came up, and I think I asked her at some point, you know, do you feel like you need to be kept away from them? And she said no. And then, you know, it was very confusing because a minute later she was making them lunch or playing with them or, you know, getting ready for bed or whatever. It was

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:24:37]: so it was confusing in that she wasn't physically harming them at the time, but was having had. Had these thoughts, Is that what you're saying?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:24:46]: Right. I never saw Lindsay harm the kids.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:24:50]: And did you also, as a result of these statements, suggest an appointment with nurse practitioner Dilata?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:24:59]: It wasn't as a result of these statements. That appointment was set up because we were at her parents house in Wallingford for Thanksgiving and she just described how she was feeling on the medication and she felt that she was. She felt that she was addicted to them.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:25:21]: Was that the benzodiazepines that she thought she was addicted to?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:25:26]: Primarily. And then she was taking Seroquel at the same time and she might have been taking Trazodone or Remeron, I'm not sure.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:25:33]: Okay. Do you recall testifying previously that I called her parents to come up to stay with us and I told her that we needed. I asked her who her doctor was because I was very concerned at this point. She was prescribed 10 different medications in just over two months, so it didn't make sense to me. And then you said, so after her parents came up, she said, I have a remote meeting with Rebecca Gelada. And you said, no, it has to be in person.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:25:59]: Yeah, I felt like it had to be in person because I just felt like there was a disconnect. I felt like we could figure it out, whatever was going on. So most of her, it seemed like most of her telehealth appointments were pretty quick and there just wasn't like a lot of attention.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:26:21]: Were you present for these telehealth visits?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:26:24]: Only a few of them. And they were after that meeting with Gelada.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:26:27]: Okay. And that appointment in person with Gelada was December 6, 2022, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:26:32]: That sounds correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:26:37]: So the thought of harming the kids was after Thanksgiving but before December 6th, is that correct? That.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:26:44]: That sounds correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:26:47]: Were you concerned for the kids safety at that time?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:26:50]: No, I wasn't.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:26:51]: And why not?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:26:53]: Because she wasn't showing any intention of harming the kids.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:26:56]: And she told you she didn't have a plan, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:26:59]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:27:08]: Now, directing your attention to December 15, 2022. Did Lindsay go to Mass General Hospital to the emergency department that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:27:22]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:27:23]: And why was that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:27:25]: I remember the reasoning being she told her dad that she wanted to commit suicide. And then she said to me, I told my dad, I want to die. And it didn't bother me at all.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:27:40]: And. As a result of those statements, you brought her or did she bring herself

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:27:56]: to Mass General, I think I brought her that time.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:28:00]: And at Mass General, she saw medical staff, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:28:05]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:28:06]: Okay. And did they recommend to her some type of admission to McLean Hospital?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:28:16]: I remember there was one doctor who was in favor of that, and there were two others who were more in favor of a day program.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:28:23]: And did they give you information about a specific day program?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:28:27]: Yeah. It was Women and Infants in Providence.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:28:31]: And at that time, when Lindsay was saying that she was suicidal, was she asked if she had a plan by

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:28:40]: the doctors or by you? I was always checking in with her, and she never told me that she had a plan. I'm not sure what the doctors asked her.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:28:49]: Okay. And after being at Mass General on December 15, did she go to Women and Infants Hospital in Rhode island to attempt to get into their postpartum program?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:29:07]: She was already in. She went in as scheduled.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:29:10]: Okay. But she didn't remain in? Correct. She was just there for a day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:29:15]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:29:15]: Okay. And did she go by herself? Did you go with her?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:29:20]: I dropped her off, and then I took Dawson skiing.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:29:24]: And at some point in time, did Lindsay reach out to you to say she wasn't staying at the program and to come pick her up?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:29:32]: She actually said that the providers at that program suggested to her that she call me and have her come get picked up, and then that I should go in and meet with the providers.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:29:43]: Okay. And then after you picked her up, you didn't. She was no longer in the program at that point, Correct. At Rhode Island Women and Children's? Right.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:29:56]: Well, we discussed it with the doctors, and their recommendation was that the program wasn't right for her.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:30:01]: Right. And so you guys returned home, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:30:05]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:30:06]: Okay.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:30:07]: And

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:30:11]: during this time frame in December, Lindsay's still working out at the Kingsbury Club, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:30:23]: That might be true. I don't recall exactly, but yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:30:33]: Do you recall her going to the Kingsbury Club on December 6, 13, 16th, 17th or 18th?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:30:40]: I mean, I. I believe that can be true, yeah. I don't recall those exact dates, but yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:30:50]: At. At this time when she's saying that she's feeling suicidal, she's telling you she doesn't have a plan. Correct. She's no longer saying she has any thoughts of harming the children? Correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:31:05]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:31:08]: She's still bringing the children to doctor's appointments during that time, right?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:31:12]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:31:13]: Do you recall her bringing Callan and Dawson to the doctors on December 2nd when they weren't feeling well?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:31:23]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:31:24]: And then she was able to call the doctor's office on December 27 and make an appointment? For Callan and Cora, when they weren't feeling well.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:31:32]: Remember that? Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:31:34]: And take them to the doctor, I believe, with you? Correct.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:31:41]: Maybe. I don't know.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:31:43]: And then on December 30, she was able to take Callan to the doctor that day as well and interact with the staff, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:31:53]: Probably.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:31:57]: Then you returned to Mass General Hospital, the Emergency Department, on December 31st, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:32:05]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:32:06]: And why did you go back on the 31st?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:32:10]: Because she was still talking about thoughts of suicide, and I was exhausted. I said, I think it's time to go to McLean. And we didn't have a diagnosis, so we just. We just didn't really know what was wrong. And I think, for me, I was hoping that McLean could really evaluate her and, you know, try to figure out the best path forward.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:32:37]: Okay. So the path to getting to McLean was to go to the Emergency Department at Mass General and be referred to McLean, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:32:44]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:32:50]: Were you aware that that night, while at the hospital, Lindsay was taking selfies?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:33:00]: No.

THE COURT [2:33:15]: Right. That may be admitted or they may be admitted city.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:33:27]: Can you exhibit me? Taking a selfie at the hospital, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:33:37]: Are you asking me?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:33:38]: Yes.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:33:38]: Yeah, I can see that.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:33:41]: And then the second page is just her legs in the doorway. So that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:33:46]: Yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:33:58]: As a result of going to Mass General and telling them about her, her suicidal thoughts, was she transferred to McLean Hospital?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:34:07]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:34:07]: Okay. And did you stay with her throughout that transfer process or were you able to?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:34:15]: I was not able to. They. For some reason, they transferred. I don't know if they do this with all patients, but she was transferred at 3 in the morning.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:34:23]: Okay. And so she reached McLean in the early morning hours of January 1st, then of 2023, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:34:32]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:34:32]: Okay. And did you Visit her at McLean Hospital?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:34:35]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:34:36]: How often did you see her there?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:34:39]: I think I was able to go twice or maybe three times.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:34:43]: And do you remember what visiting hours were or what hours you visited?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:34:47]: I don't remember exactly, but it was something like 2 to 6. And I think there were morning hours, but you couldn't just go anytime.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:34:55]: You couldn't or could you could not.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:34:56]: Okay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:34:57]: And so out of the few days that she was there, what, five days she was there, you visited two or three times, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:35:04]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:35:05]: And while you were there with her, did she. Did Lindsay talk to you about the treatment that she was receiving at McLean Hospital?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:35:17]: She told me about her experience. It didn't really seem like she was getting any treatment.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:35:21]: Okay. Did she tell you that she wasn't really getting any treatment or wasn't getting as much care or treatment as she wanted?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:35:30]: Well, I think by the third day I said, what have the doctors said? And she said, I haven't met with the doctor. The challenge was she arrived on a Saturday and then I think Monday was an observed holiday, so she didn't see a doctor until Tuesday. So until then she was coloring and playing with clay and going for walks.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:35:52]: Were you aware that she was seen by a resident, a doctor, the first two days she was there and then an attending on the third day that she was there?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:36:03]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:36:04]: Were you aware that she was seen by a licensed social worker, group therapist and other mental health workers every day while she was there?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:36:13]: Yeah, I didn't get any updates.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:36:15]: Were you aware that she was offered one on one therapy by unit staff every day that she was there?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:36:22]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:36:23]: Did you know that she participated in group therapy on January 1st for 45 minutes, a session about illness and symptom management?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:36:32]: I was aware of some group activities. I didn't know the details of it.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:36:36]: And were you aware that she participated in two group therapy sessions, one for 45 minutes and one for 50 minutes, one on self compassion and one on illness and symptom management on January 3rd?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:36:48]: I wasn't aware of the subject of any of the meetings.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:36:51]: Now, were you aware that she declined further group therapy and treatment in the afternoon of January 3rd?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:36:59]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:37:00]: Were you aware that on January 4th she participated in a group for 40 minutes called Medication management?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:37:06]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:37:08]: Were you aware that she participated in a group on January 5th on expressive therapy for 45 minutes? And were you aware that she declined further treatment two times on January 5, one to attend group therapy and one to attend a session on cognitive behavioral processes? Were you aware that Lindsay asked the doctors to be discharged on the 6th, Friday the 6th, because she wanted to go to Cora's birthday party on the 7th?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:37:42]: Not that I recall.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:37:43]: Were you aware or did Lindsay tell you that she then asked the doctors to discharge her on January 5th because she wanted to go home and get ready for the party?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:37:55]: I wasn't aware of Lindsay asking the doctors to be discharged.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:38:00]: Okay. Were there any insurance issues in terms of insurance refusing to pay for her stay at McLean Hospital?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:38:11]: We didn't really get to that point.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:38:13]: You weren't advised by the social worker or any staff there that there were any issues with your insurance, is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:38:21]: Yeah, that's correct, but I wouldn't have cared either.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:38:24]: Would you have just paid for it if needed?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:38:26]: I would have paid anything, yeah.

THE COURT [2:38:32]: Miss Sprague? Is this a good time to break?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:38:35]: Yes.

THE COURT [2:38:35]: All right, so members of the jury, we're gonna break for the afternoon recess and we'll see you back here about 2 o', clock.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:38:44]: Okay?

THE COURT [2:39:05]: It. [Counsel], anything we need to address before the break?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:39:33]: No, your honor.

THE COURT [2:39:33]: All right, so we'll see every about 2 o'. Clock. Thank you.

COURT OFFICER [2:40:00]: You may be seated. All right.

THE COURT [2:40:08]: Anything we need to talk about before we bring the jury in?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:40:10]: No, your honor. Did you want the witness in this on the stand now or after?

THE COURT [2:40:14]: Well, if, if we've got a couple seconds. Jurors are coming in right now. If you want to have them take

UNIDENTIFIED [2:40:18]: the stand, that's fine. It.

COURT OFFICER [2:41:27]: This court's now in session.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:41:28]: Please proceed, your honor, for the purpose

THE CLERK [2:41:31]: of the record, we return back to the trial. In the matter of Commonwealth versus Lindsay Clancy, all parties are present, including the defendant.

UNIDENTIFIED [2:41:37]: All right, thank you.

THE COURT [2:41:38]: Thank you, members of the jury. [Ms.] Sprague.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:41:40]: Thank your honor. Sir, before the break, we were talking about Lindsay's stay at McLean Hospital, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:41:49]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:41:50]: Were you aware that she was discharged on January 5, 2023?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:41:55]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:41:56]: And did you in fact bring her home that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:41:59]: I picked her up, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:42:02]: Were you aware that she had a follow up appointment with Dr. Jennifer Tufts the following day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:42:07]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:42:18]: I want to show you some photos here of the children and just ask if this is a fair and accurate depiction of how they look in January of 2020.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:42:37]: Yes.

THE COURT [2:42:46]: They may be marked,

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:43:07]: Showing you Exhibit 9. This is Cora, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:43:13]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:43:13]: Sir, can you tell us a little bit about what Cora was like in January of 2023, what our interests were?

MR. REDDINGTON (for the defense) [2:43:22]: I'm going to [object] at this point.

THE COURT [2:43:25]: [Counsel], can I see it?

MR. REDDINGTON (for the defense) [2:43:25]: Sidebar.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:44:27]: So, sir, if you could just tell us a little bit about Cora's interest at that time.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:44:33]: Cora was into princesses. And she had a lot of friends and she just liked taking care of people.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:44:51]: And showing you Dawson, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:44:58]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:45:00]: What kind of things was Dawson Interested in? 2023?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:45:04]: Using the Firefighters and trucks. And he liked paw patrol.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:45:19]: Exhibit 11.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:45:21]: Allan,

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:45:24]: he's only eight months old, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:45:25]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:45:28]: Did he have any.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:45:30]: He was just a happy baby.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:45:34]: And then just showing you. Quickly, exhibit 12. Does this picture clearly indicate their sizes in relation to each other in January 2023?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:45:44]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:45:58]: After Lindsay was released from McLean Hospital, was there a birthday party for Cora on January 7, 2023?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:46:08]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:46:09]: And who had organized that birthday party?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:46:14]: I think we both did.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:46:16]: And where was

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:46:19]: was at Nova in Plymouth.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:46:22]: And was Lindsay present for the party?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:46:25]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:46:29]: And do you recall who got all the supplies and everything for the party.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:46:34]: I think Lindsay did.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:46:38]: If we could play a video. I'm going to ask you to look at a video and just tell me if you recognize this as a video from the party. Happy birthday. Or was that from the party?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:47:02]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:47:03]: And was that Cora seated in front of Lindsay while singing Happy Birthday?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:47:07]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:47:09]: And there's a second clip

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:47:13]: again.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:47:13]: Was that Cora and Lindsay?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:47:15]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:47:22]: To have the birthday videos as the

THE COURT [2:47:23]: next exhibit that may be admitted.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:47:27]: 13 so far. From Cora's birthday party until January 23, 2023. Did you check on and check in with Lindsay every day. And how did you do that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:47:51]: I would ask her in the morning how she's feeling, how she slept.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:47:56]: And did she tell you that she was sleeping better?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:48:00]: Maybe a little bit better, but she's still struggling.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:48:10]: And did you ask her during that time if she had suicidal thoughts?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:48:15]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:48:16]: And what was her response?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:48:18]: She told me no.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:48:19]: She told you what she said?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:48:20]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:48:21]: No. Did she ever tell you during that time period that she was having thoughts of harming the children?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:48:29]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:48:33]: Did you as a family go to the Museum of Science on January 8, 2023?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:48:38]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:48:40]: Was the defendant able to participate in activities with the children while at the museum on January 8?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:48:46]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:48:51]: Gonna pull up some photographs. Just ask you to ID or identify everyone in the photograph so that the jurors can follow their movements through the video footage and video. So if I may. Down here in the maroon colored shirt, it's Dawson. Dawson.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:49:15]: Okay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:49:15]: And in the red skirt, Cora. And in the gray jacket, Lindsay. And here pushing the carriage. That's me and his cow in the carriage at that time.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:49:28]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:49:35]: And permission to play the video.

THE COURT [2:49:37]: You're on sidebar.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:56:58]: At this time we've moved to submit the still photograph and the video. Pursuant to the discussion at sidebar, I'd move to submit the full video in as one exhibit for identification and the timeline video as the exhibit

THE COURT [2:57:20]: timeline. Do we for you submit the a copy of that later?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:57:24]: There's the full video that was provided by the science, and then there's a timeline that was created following the family through museum. And you can get snippets from this video.

THE COURT [2:57:33]: Okay, that's fine.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:57:35]: So for identification. And the museum timeline for the next exhibit.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:57:54]: Exhibit 14,

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:58:08]: Sir, after going to the Museum of Science. Well, let me go back to that for a moment. At the Museum of Science, do you recall the defendant being able to interact with the children at exhibits that required manipulating knobs and materials and showing the children how to do those exhibits and interacting with them at those exhibits?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:58:33]: Yeah. Lindsay was always able to interact with our kids, including at the Museum of Science.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:58:39]: And then after your trip to the Museum of Science, do you remember going to the Charley Horse Restaurant with the kids and Lindsay?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:58:48]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:58:49]: And how soon after the Museum of Science was that, do you recall?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:58:54]: I don't recall the exact dates.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:58:56]: Okay. And what type of place is the Charlie Horse Restaurant?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:59:00]: It's like a family restaurant with games.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:59:02]: And how was the defendant's demeanor at the restaurant?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:59:09]: It was good. I was hopeful.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:59:11]: Why were you hopeful?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:59:12]: Because she seemed much better.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:59:17]: And then on January 14, 2023, we. Were you able to go to brunch with your friends while the defendant was home with the children?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:59:28]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:59:29]: And about how long were you gone?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:59:33]: About two hours.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:59:35]: Were there any issues or problems that you were aware of while you were gone?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:59:39]: No. She encouraged me to go. She said, you've just been inside a lot. You should go out, and it was fine.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:59:48]: And while you were there at brunch, did she send you photos of the kids and text messages?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [2:59:53]: I think so, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [2:59:59]: Direct Your attention to January 15, 2023. Did you and Lindsay and the kids go to the Cape Codder in Hyannis?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:00:07]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:00:08]: And was there a water park there?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:00:09]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:00:11]: And how was Lindsay's demeanor that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:00:15]: It seemed pretty good.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:00:16]: Was she able to interact with the children and participate in the activities?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:00:21]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:00:24]: I could bring up photos again, I would just like you to look at the photos to point out who the individuals are in the photo. So here in the dark, shorter, with a white band on the top.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:00:40]: That's me.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:00:42]: And then in the bathing suit here with the ponytail.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:00:45]: Cora.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:00:46]: And then in the striped swimsuit at the bottom, it's Dawson. And then here in the. The black bathing suit without. Without shoulder straps.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:01:00]: Lindsay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:01:01]: Lindsay. And is that. That was Cora with her?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:01:06]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:01:09]: And in this third photo, is that Lindsay with Callan in her arms?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:01:13]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:01:20]: And that photo there, is that Dawson with the striped bathing suit?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:01:24]: Yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:01:26]: We can go to the video. With the court's permission, I'm just going to go to certain clips. If we could start with from the beginning to 40 seconds in and play. Sir, if you could tell us who. Well, can you confirm that that's you and the children in Lindsay arriving now?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:01:52]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:02:06]: Would that be Cora in the purple jacket with the pink boots?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:02:08]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:02:09]: And Lindsay in the gray coat with the backpack?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:02:12]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:02:19]: And then if we could go to 139

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:02:23]: it.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:03:09]: And during this time, are you waiting to check in and get your wristbands and all of that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:03:13]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:03:47]: You could go to 647. Do you recognize this play area?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:04:00]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:04:01]: And did you and Lindsay and the children go over to this partship area?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:04:05]: Yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:04:07]: Showing you here, that core that just went down the slide.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:04:11]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:04:27]: And is that you there by the slide?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:04:30]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:04:32]: We can go to 1122.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:05:48]: It's.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:06:22]: We could go to 1406. So here it's 1625, that core and then Lindsay that go down the slide together.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:07:11]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:07:19]: We can go to 1745. Got the same thing here.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:07:38]: Yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:07:39]: So she's able to interact with Cor and the others, participate in the activities?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:07:43]: Yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:07:46]: If we could go to 4753, please. You're up in the corner here. Is this you and Dawson and Cor entering the pool area?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:08:11]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:08:13]: Lindsay was with Callan at that time, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:08:17]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:08:17]: So you were comfortable with her being off in a separate area with Callan while you were with core and Dawson that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:08:24]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:08:25]: Okay, that's all.

THE COURT [3:08:27]: Thank you.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:08:28]: I move to submit the POD photos and timeline the again.

THE COURT [3:08:35]: Let me just see over here, just briefly, just so I have that straight. All right. Pursuant to our discussion, that portion may be admitted. 15. Okay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:12:11]: Directing your attention now to January 16, 2023. Did you go skiing that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:12:18]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:12:19]: And who did you go skiing with?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:12:20]: Cora.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:12:22]: And was it just the two of you?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:12:24]: No, we went with another dad and his son.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:12:27]: And who was that dad?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:12:28]: Adam Schwabach.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:12:29]: Okay. And was Lindsay home with Kellen and Dawson that day when you went skiing with Cora?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:12:39]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:12:40]: Were there any issues or problems that you were aware of when she was home alone with the kids all day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:12:45]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:12:46]: And was she able to communicate with you throughout the day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:12:51]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:12:52]: And how was that communication done?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:12:55]: Texts. I might have called her. I'm not sure.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:12:58]: And do you recall texting each other back and forth photos of you with Cora and the boys at home and what they were doing?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:13:07]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:13:08]: And so she was able to take those photographs and send them to you without any apparent problem, Correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:13:14]: Correct.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:13:23]: Show you the three text messages with the attached photos. Thank you, sir. Are these accurate copies of the text messages with the photos that were sent between yourself and the defendant on January 16, 2023?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:14:01]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:14:02]: If I could move to have these marked as the next three exhibits, they may be admitted. Exhibit 16, 17 and 18. So, showing you the first photo, which was marked Exhibit 16, did you start off the conversation by sending the photo of you and Kolorovsky?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:14:45]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:14:49]: And showing you exhibit 17? 17. Did Lindsay respond by taking and sending this photo of Dawson?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:14:55]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:14:59]: And then did she respond again sending you selfie? She took of herself and Callan?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:15:05]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:15:16]: And you felt comfortable leaving Callan and Dawson home with her that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:15:21]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:15:21]: And why is that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:15:23]: She seemed to be doing a lot better.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:15:25]: In what ways did she seem to be doing better?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:15:29]: Her mood seemed better. She was more active, and she was able to. She was able to partake in more things.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:15:38]: She was also going to the gym during that time as well, correct? The Kingsbury Club.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:15:42]: That sounds right.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:15:43]: Yeah. Were you hopeful at that time that things were getting better?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:15:53]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:15:56]: Did Lindsay's parents visit you the weekend of January 21st through the 22nd? Yeah. And whose idea was that, do you recall?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:16:05]: I. I think it was theirs. I think they were just coming to visit to say hi.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:16:09]: Okay. And what did you guys do that weekend?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:16:15]: We just hung out and went to a friend's house on Sunday. They left after we got back from there.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:16:22]: And whose friend's house did you go to that Sunday?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:16:28]: The carnies.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:16:29]: Carneys. Okay. And who went to the carnies?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:16:34]: Lindsay, myself, Dawson and Cora.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:16:37]: And what did you do there?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:16:40]: There was a fire, and we were. I think we roast some marshmallows or something like that.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:16:45]: And how was Lindsay's demeanor that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:16:49]: She was quieter that day, so, I mean, that was the extent of it.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:16:55]: Was she able to interact with the carnies?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:16:59]: Yeah, but she's quiet.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:17:00]: Okay. And you said you returned home and then her parents left?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:17:05]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:17:21]: You recall Lindsay and her mom taking a picture together that weekend?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:17:25]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:17:29]: Is this that photo?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:17:30]: Yeah, that's it.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:17:31]: You could have this marked as the

THE COURT [3:17:33]: next exhibit, it may be admitted.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:17:37]: Exhibit 19. And Lindsay seems to be doing better that weekend, correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:17:48]: Overall, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:17:49]: Were you aware that her mother had sent her a text saying something to the effect of, I'm glad you're doing so much better?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:17:55]: I became aware of that later. Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:17:58]: And just showing exhibit 19. And I'm sorry, your honor, I didn't mark the still photo from the Museum of Science. If we could have that as the next.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:18:16]: Sure.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:18:37]: That Monday, after her parents had gone home to Connecticut. So Monday the 23rd of January, did Cora and Dawson go to school?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:18:47]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:18:48]: And do you recall Lindsay picking them up that afternoon?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:18:53]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:18:54]: When Lindsay returned home with Cora and Dawson, did she discuss with you that Cora was having some stomach issues at school?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:19:02]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:19:03]: And were you familiar with the stomach issues that Cora had been having?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:19:07]: Yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:19:08]: And did you have an idea of what was causing those stomach issues?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:19:14]: Yeah, it wasn't unusual. She was embarrassed to go to the bathroom at school, so she just held it all day.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:19:21]: And so this was a common occurrence? Yeah. And were you aware that Cora had her five year physical scheduled for the next day, Tuesday the 24th?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:19:34]: No, I didn't know that was already scheduled. I thought she like called it in and set it up, so. Yeah, it's news to me.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:19:43]: Okay, so would it. Would it have been Lindsay who would make those kinds of appointments, the physicals and all of that?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:19:50]: She usually handled that, yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:19:52]: Okay. And going to Tuesday, January 24, 2023, were you working that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:20:02]: Sorry? You said on the 24th?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:20:04]: Yes, Tuesday the 24th.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:20:06]: Yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:20:07]: That morning was Cora's doctor's appointment at 8:00am yeah. And who took her to the doctor's appointment?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:20:14]: Lindsay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:20:16]: And did anyone have to go with her or did she drive herself and Cora there?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:20:19]: It was just Lindsay and Cora.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:20:22]: And you were home with the boys, is that right?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:20:24]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:20:25]: And while you're with the boys and Lindsay's with Cora at the doctor's, are you sending text messages and photos back and forth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:20:36]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:20:38]: And why did you send a photo of Dawson to Lindsay that morning?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:20:43]: Because he dressed himself completely for the

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:20:46]: first time and he was excited about that.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:20:50]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:20:55]: And did she respond back with a photo of Cora?

THE COURT [3:20:58]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:21:07]: Are these the photos you sent back and forth?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:21:09]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:21:10]: I could have the photo of Dawson as the next exhibit and the photo of Cor as the following.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:21:15]: All right.

THE COURT [3:21:15]: They may be admitted.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:21:27]: 21 and 22.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:21:28]: So

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:21:31]: publishing these exhibit 21 and exhibit 22. And while you were texting with Lindsay back and forth, were you able to understand her text messages?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:21:52]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:21:54]: Did she seem to understand yours in response?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:21:56]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:22:01]: Did she return home?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:22:04]: Yes.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:22:05]: And do you recall around what time she got home that morning?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:22:10]: 8:30.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:22:12]: And once she got home, what did you do?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:22:17]: I think I got ready for work.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:22:19]: And while you were downstairs working in your office, do you know what Lindsay and the kids were doing?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:22:31]: They built a snowman and they did some art projects.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:22:34]: And how did you know this was happening?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:22:36]: She texted me a picture.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:22:38]: So Lindsay was continuing to text you and send you photographs throughout that day?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:22:43]: Yeah. And I went up to say hi at one point.

THE COURT [3:22:45]: Okay,

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:22:58]: First I just want to show

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:22:59]: you

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:23:02]: the text messages back and forth. The text being on the right hand side. You want to look through there and just see if you recognize the messages going back and forth between you and Lindsay that morning.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:23:22]: This is says activity center.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:23:26]: Excuse me.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:23:27]: I think this is something else.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:23:32]: So starting at 7am on the 24th. And we go to 8:17am this is the photo you sent Dawson. And then the replies going to 8:18am Is this the reply from Lindsay? And then throughout the day, just messages back and forth up to the point. Page 940 where Lindsay sending you the photos of the kids in the snow.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:24:15]: Is that correct?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:24:16]: Yeah.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:24:16]: Okay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:24:17]: We could have the text messages marked as the next exhibit that may be admitted. And just look at one photo. Is this one of the photos you sent? We could have a photograph marked as

THE COURT [3:24:41]: the next exhibit that may be admitted.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:24:54]: How often do you think you or do you remember going upstairs that day to interact with Lindsay and the kids?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:25:01]: Once or twice. It was a busier day than usual.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:25:07]: And when you did come up to interact with them, how was Lindsay's mood?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:25:16]: She seemed happy.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:25:17]: Happy. And how could you tell that? What was she doing?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:25:22]: She was playing with the kids and she seemed in a good mood.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:25:29]: At any point during that day when you came up or while she's texting you, did she tell you she was having suicidal thoughts?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:25:35]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:25:36]: Did she tell you she was having thoughts of harming the kids?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:25:39]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:25:40]: Did she ask for help or anything that caused concern?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:25:45]: No. She was having one of her best days.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:25:47]: One of her best days. I want to direct your attention to 4:53pm that day. Did you receive a text from Lindsay about dinner?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:26:03]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:26:04]: And do you recall what it said?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:26:06]: Something along the lines of, do you want to get takeout? I haven't planned anything.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:26:13]: Do you recall it saying, any chance you want to do takeout from 3V? I didn't cook anything. It's been a long day.

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:26:19]: Yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:26:21]: Had you been to 3V Restaurant previously?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:26:25]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:26:26]: Alone or with the family?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:26:27]: With the family.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:26:29]: And approximately how many times had you been there to eat?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:26:32]: Probably three times.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:26:34]: And so you. You had all gotten in the car and driven from your home to 3V Restaurant in Plymouth approximately three times?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:26:45]: Yeah. Sometimes we were already out somewhere, but yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:26:47]: Okay. But been there three times. Had you ever done takeout from there before?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:26:52]: No.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:26:53]: Where would you typically do takeout when you were going to do takeout at home?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:26:58]: The Chestnut Grill, I think. Another one was West End Grill.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:27:04]: Were those closer than 03 to your home?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:27:06]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:27:14]: So Lindsay suggested 03 and you agreed, Is that correct?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:27:18]: Yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:27:18]: Okay. Did she send you another text at 4:56pm asking you to take a look at the menu?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:27:26]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:27:29]: And did you send a text at 5:06pm about Callan?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:27:35]: Yeah. I asked if he had taken a nap.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:27:38]: And did she respond?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:27:39]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:27:40]: And what was her response?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:27:42]: That it was a shorter nap and he was awake.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:27:45]: And at that time, did you also ask, send a separate text asking what she was getting at 3V?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:27:52]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:27:53]: And what was her response?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:27:56]: I don't remember what she ordered.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:28:00]: Do you recall a Mediterranean Power Bowl?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:28:03]: Yeah, that sounds right.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:28:08]: And did she ask you what you were getting?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:28:12]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:28:13]: And at 5:08pm did you respond?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:28:16]: Yeah.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:28:16]: And what did you tell her?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:28:19]: I forget what it was.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:28:21]: Do you recall scallop and pork belly risotto? Yeah, that was it?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:28:25]: Yep.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:28:29]: Who called in the order to 3 V?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:28:31]: Lindsay.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:28:33]: Once the order was placed, what did you do?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:28:37]: I came upstairs, I took Callan for a minute, and I rocked him by my knees, kissed Cora on the head, and I said, I'll be right back.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:28:49]: And what was Dawson doing when you were leaving?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:28:52]: Using chicken nuggets on the couch.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:28:54]: And do you recall if he was using a bowl or a plate?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:28:57]: It was a bowl.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:29:17]: It. Do you remember what the defendant. Well, first of all, where was the defendant seated when you left the house, or was she seated?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:29:57]: She was standing. Where was she in the doorway of the living room.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:30:03]: And was that the doorway by the front door or the doorway by the basement door?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:30:09]: That's the doorway by the basement door.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:30:11]: Okay. And did she have Callan or where was Callan?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:30:14]: She had Callan.

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:30:15]: Okay. And what was her demeanor?

PATRICK CLANCY (witness) [3:30:19]: Normal.

THE COURT [3:30:23]: [Counsel], could I see both sidebar here?

THE COURT [3:31:30]: All right, [members of the] jury, we're going to break at this point for the day, all right? So what we're going to do is I'm going to excuse you till Wednesday morning, all right? So you don't have to come in here tomorrow. Just remind you I'm going to ask those same questions I asked you this morning. Whether or not you did any research or you saw anything that would affect your ability to remain fair and impartial, you have to keep still, keep an open mind. So don't do any research. I don't talk about this case with anyone. I don't go online, look at anything, don't take any road trips, and we will see you on Wednesday morning. Same with the same instructions that you get from the officers in regards to that. So, again, thank you so much for your time and your effort, and I'll see you on Wednesday. Okay? [Counsel], anything else we need to address before Wednesday?

MS. SPRAGUE (for the Commonwealth) [3:33:10]: I'm not sure if you want to discuss the view.

THE COURT [3:33:12]: Oh, yeah, let me see. [Counsel] over here. I want to thank everyone. And so we're going to be recess on this matter until Wednesday at 9:00am all right, so we'll be in recess.

Frequently asked questions

Is there a transcript of the Lindsay Clancy trial opening statements?

This page has an unofficial transcript of Day 1, July 27, 2026, including both opening statements, made from a livestream recording. The official transcript is prepared by the court reporter and may differ.

Who gave the opening statements in the Clancy trial?

Assistant District Attorney Shanan Buckingham for the Commonwealth and Kevin Reddington for the defense. Assistant District Attorney Jennifer Sprague conducted the direct examination of Patrick Clancy.

Who was the first witness?

Patrick Clancy, Lindsay Clancy’s former husband and the children’s father.

How did the Clancy trial end?

In a mistrial on September 4, 2026, after the jury deadlocked. Lindsay Clancy is presumed innocent. A hearing on the defense double jeopardy motion and other motions is set for November 2, 2026.

Sources: Livestream audio of Day 1 of Commonwealth v. Clancy, Plymouth Superior Court, July 27, 2026, transcribed by machine with speaker separation and reviewed by us; speaker identification of the Commonwealth’s opening checked against the Boston Globe’s video of Shanan Buckingham’s opening statement. Unofficial transcript; not the court’s record. Statements in opening are not evidence. Lindsay Clancy is presumed innocent.